Every day the vaccine rolls out

[offshore_arab83]

Found the table which relates the Tier category to cases per 100,000. I was thinking it starts at Tier 1 but there is a Tier 0 so in actual fact, as Chick says, we should be comfortably in Tier f*cking 1 right now!!!

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Ffs again 😭😭

[JamesMcClean]

They don't have to open everything up though. They can put us into the relevant tiers that we were in previously. Numbers surely wouldn't rocket as they did at Christmas with so many of our population having been vaccinated. We've sacrificed so much the last year, the least we deserve is to be given a chance to get some kind of normality back as the current data suggests we should. Sturgeons new motto is DATA NOT DATES, well the data suggests we SHOULD NOT be locked up in tier 4.

The rationale about going by the science got chucked oot the windae as soon as the schools were kept open for far too long, uni students were allowed to spread freely through the country and Greater Glasgow remained in Tier 2 when it should have been Tier 3 or even 4 back in the autumn. There is zero credibility when that argument now gets peddled.

[GUNBOAT]

G I get we’ve out performed England and we should have, they have 50 million more people that us

Sorry i really dinnie follow that post it makes no sense to me whatsoever.I am on about cases per 100,000 not population.In January areas of England had over 1200 per 100,000 it was FN rampant.
The same areas are opening up ahead of our densely populated areas when we had just over 400 per 100,000.Them's the FACTS.

[offshore_arab83]

Sorry, I disagree. Relax too soon and we go backwards again. We have to wait and see what happens when schools and universities go back. We could get new varients. Rather not have false hope. Am willing to sit it out a bit longer rather than go through this again.

see that’s the thing Scottie, will we go through our whole lives worrying about new variants? All we can do and go on is the here and now. The strains we currently have. If the vaccine is any good then the people who really need it, the majority of them have had their first dose. Get the second doses out and get back to living as this ain’t living we’re merely existing and it’s f ucking depressing as f uck

[offshore_arab83]

Seriously? It was all about protect the vulnerable, and not overwhelm the NHS. All the vulnerable (or majority of them) have had their initial vaccine, hospitalisation has dropped dramatically over recent weeks, so based on current numbers, surely now was the time to go back to the tier levels (or as we go into March), not the end of fecking April. The economy needs restarted, people need a boost, as this is affecting many people financially and mentally. This virus will never go totally away, and we’ll be living with it, just like we do the flu, and other strains, for the forseeable future. Vaccines will continually be developed as required, to cope with different strains.
My money is on the wee sh!te looking for political gain, and hope it backfires big time!!

Great post!!!

[OmaniArab]

Sorry, I disagree. Relax too soon and we go backwards again. We have to wait and see what happens when schools and universities go back. We could get new varients. Rather not have false hope. Am willing to sit it out a bit longer rather than go through this again.

We will always go backwards and forwards so surely anyone can see that we're going to have to learn to live with it. Another two months of this ****e and for what - she's lost the f'n plot?!

[offshore_arab83]

Sorry i really dinnie follow that post it makes no sense to me whatsoever.I am on about cases per 100,000 not population.In January areas of England had over 1200 per 100,000 it was FN rampant.
The same areas are opening up ahead of our densely populated areas when we had just over 400 per 100,000.Them's the FACTS.

Forgetting head of population oor wee country should be doing better, and we have. We should be coming out of this way before the English do!

[GUNBOAT]

Forgetting head of population oor wee country should be doing better, and we have. We should be coming out of this way before the English do!

Sorry mate is that not what i have been posting for hours?.

[Chick A Saw]

Have to be careful here as someone will say im just looking for an argument, but i get more hope from what Nic said today than the buffoon yesterday!

I may seem to be a Nic sympathizer, and yes the SNP is where my allegiance is and always will be, but the data that i look at without having any expert knowledge whatsoever in this field, or the list of advisors behind me that Nic has access to, really makes sense that the way we are heading is mostly correct.

You have to consider that the Kent strain, the one that pushed us into this lockdown, in 2 weeks set off the alarm bells doon sooth, then once it got a hold up here, more than doubled new infection figures in 2 weeks. It was soon the dominant strain of this virus at 67% of new cases, and now exceeds 80% of all new infections. Another thing to be cautious about is we were seeing case 7 day averages dropping by around 300 Monday to Monday at the beginning of Feb, slowing to 150 and 100, then up again yesterday. I do expect that is a blip because of mass community testing and hope figures do come down again this week.

I go back to what i said at the start of this post and say that i think Boris gave everyone big headline dates that we will do this, that and the next thing at this point, only to go on and role back dates once they realise that infections are still too widespread, current 7 day average at 10,885!

Seen as i am convinced that schools and hospitals were the transmission driver before Christmas, i think schools should not be back to the levels they are just now, but testing is now part of that return so at least there are mitigations.

What gives me hope is in 3 weeks i might get up to see my maw n paw, just in time for Easter, a route to normality appears at my work and i might manage to escape my local area to see more of my beautiful country. I hopefully will then get my first dose and be able to get out for a meal. Back that up with the growing evidence that vaccines are stopping transmission means there is enough to look forward to if you can be patient enough! Just dinnae book a holiday this year!

[scottie43]

Chick you put it better than me and I absolutely agree with you. Haven't seen my grandchildren for months but want them and us to be safe and am willing to wait. Nicola is doing the right thing.