O/T Vaccine Passport

[swaledale]

I think it would be both impractical and costly and for what purpose? IF the vaccine both protects from infection and stops transmission - which looking at recent studies appears very likely, then the only people at risk are going to be the unvaccinated.

Are all venues going to be asking punters to flash their "vaccine passport"? Would it be required in schools, work places etc?

As rA rightly says, the market in forgeries would be running in no time, which would make the whole concept null and void anyway, make a few more quid for the criminal elements of society though.

I can see for going to other countries, that a vaccine certificate, which one needs for yellow fever etc. in other places, not an issue and its fairly simple to arrange for that to be issued through GP or health centre etc. But really in the UK?

I wasn't in favour of ID cards, that would be a wee bit ironic in a country that fought for freedom and civil liberties to impose a vaccine certificate or indeed ID cards.

[Andy_Faber]

I think it would be both impractical and costly and for what purpose? IF the vaccine both protects from infection and stops transmission - which looking at recent studies appears very likely, then the only people at risk are going to be the unvaccinated.

Are all venues going to be asking punters to flash their "vaccine passport"? Would it be required in schools, work places etc?

As rA rightly says, the market in forgeries would be running in no time, which would make the whole concept null and void anyway, make a few more quid for the criminal elements of society though.

I can see for going to other countries, that a vaccine certificate, which one needs for yellow fever etc. in other places, not an issue and its fairly simple to arrange for that to be issued through GP or health centre etc. But really in the UK?

I wasn't in favour of ID cards, that would be a wee bit ironic in a country that fought for freedom and civil liberties to impose a vaccine certificate or indeed ID cards.

One thing longer term is the avoidance of 'drift' - 85% plus of the population getting jabbbed is monumental, but what happens when that becomes 65% next year, 35% the year after etc, maybe it will be a more pointed reminder to folk to get a booster to get them into Pride Park than for the good of the nation

[swaledale]

One thing longer term is the avoidance of 'drift' - 85% plus of the population getting jabbbed is monumental, but what happens when that becomes 65% next year, 35% the year after etc, maybe it will be a more pointed reminder to folk to get a booster to get them into Pride Park than for the good of the nation

If we can get 85 - 90% first time around, why would it not be the case subsequently, unless one is relying on people to remember when to go and that isn't the case with other routine jabs. Only the suspicious or anti vaxxers are going to want to miss out and an Vaccine passport won't affect them.

[Andy_Faber]

If we can get 85 - 90% first time around, why would it not be the case subsequently

Because that regretably is human nature. As I mentioned before I coincidentally did a lot of reading on this in 2018/2019 and continue to do so, and drop-off is a constant bane of the lives of those seeking medical cures. The drop offs (in both trials and the real world) in modern times have been concentrated on the same demographics 'we' (I refer to UK here) are having problems with regarding Covid. Nothing really to do with anti-vaxers as such people willingly commenced on the programmes in question, but don't see them through. .

[ramAnag]

I think it would be both impractical and costly and for what purpose? IF the vaccine both protects from infection and stops transmission - which looking at recent studies appears very likely, then the only people at risk are going to be the unvaccinated.

Are all venues going to be asking punters to flash their "vaccine passport"? Would it be required in schools, work places etc?

As rA rightly says, the market in forgeries would be running in no time, which would make the whole concept null and void anyway, make a few more quid for the criminal elements of society though.

I can see for going to other countries, that a vaccine certificate, which one needs for yellow fever etc. in other places, not an issue and its fairly simple to arrange for that to be issued through GP or health centre etc. But really in the UK?

I wasn't in favour of ID cards, that would be a wee bit ironic in a country that fought for freedom and civil liberties to impose a vaccine certificate or indeed ID cards.

Sort of understand your reservations about ID cards, Swale, but does it really matter that much? My wallet already includes the usual Debit and Credit cards, my driving licence, donor card, E/GHIC etc. We have number plate recognition systems springing up everywhere and when I pick up a courtesy car next Monday I’ll need to provide my NY number. With all that information already shared, plus a passport of course, I’m not sure how worried I’d be if an ID card...even one with medical details included...was introduced.