Every day the vaccine rolls out

[Chick A Saw]

You talk about risk but ignore the biggest risk factor of them all with regard to this virus, AGE.

I have not ignored age in the slightest, and the age groups that are most at risk of death have already been covered by current Cohorts, and this should be completed.

Now we are heading towards the new Cohorts where deaths are less likely, to me the people who are at most risk of catching this and suffering from severe symptoms are who we should be targeting, and those who are in full time, public facing and high density working environments and should be considered for a bit of que jumping, be that preventing waste, or re-arranging appointments.

When Cohort 6 is complete, it is possible we should have vaccinated 2.5m people, and i dont think the numbers of the groups of employees i am talking about will be that big, especially when some might have already been caught by waste reduction.

[TerryTheTerror]

That's fair. Don't you consider the opinion of JCVI that trying to do what you suggest will have a seriously detrimental effect on the speed of the rollout of the vaccination program putting more folk at risk?

[Chick A Saw]

That's fair. Don't you consider the opinion of JCVI that trying to do what you suggest will have a seriously detrimental effect on the speed of the rollout of the vaccination program putting more folk at risk?

Of course i consider what the JCVI have said, but the target audience can be identified quite easily through contacting Councils, company management/HR departments, professional accreditation organizations, etc, etc...

It is a big undertaking, but how much of a detrimental effect would there be on the wider effort, especially if a head start is made with waste control.

[GUNBOAT]

Getting seek fed up of this thread being turned into a lets throw the vaccine list out the window and ruin everything with which worker is more at risk than another.
Lets go back to the first lockdown i received a letter telling me i had to shield and at the time got nothing from either government apart from advice that i was in severe danger of dying if i contracted the virus.
My betters in the teaching profession who had to shield were given FULL pay to follow government advice whereas i got F ALL,the boys that work for me after 6 weeks told me they needed money as they also had received the square root of F ALL either and i decided to go back to work.
At that point i had cancelled direct debits for my mortgage,pension,council tax and other insurance policies just to survive financially.
I returned to work when cases were still very high out of necessity because me and the boys were financially on our knees and really had no other option's.
Meanwhile teachers on the shielding list the same as me were still on full pay and being protected by their unions and both governments,so vaccinate those on the shielding list early but let the others wait their FN turn.

Edit to add,me and the boys who did go back to work in the public domain pre vaccine have at least helped pay the wages of those in public service who were sitting at home doing F ALL bar shield from the virus,FACT.

[Chick A Saw]

Meanwhile teachers on the shielding list the same as me were still on full pay and being protected by their unions and both governments,so vaccinate those on the shielding list early but let the others wait their FN turn.

I am not trying to detract from what you are saying as i know many people who have been in the situation you find yourself in, some who have made drastic decisions to ensure money flows in, and know of a few who have never worked since lock down 1 began.

But teachers and support staff were still working as children were still being educated, and i make no apology for making the case for my wife to be vaccinated ahead of myself!

I am not advocating that a full stop is put on the vaccination programme while ALL workers at higher risk are dealt with, i just think its easy enough to make a re-arrangement to accommodate All the workers we have both mentioned.

It should be remembered that Cohort 6 has quite rightly been greatly expanded in Scotland to include people who were missed by the JCVI, and maybe doubled, which has not caused any targets to fall back, and maybe moved the final offer date forward!

[GUNBOAT]

I am not trying to detract from what you are saying as i know many people who have been in the situation you find yourself in, some who have made drastic decisions to ensure money flows in, and know of a few who have never worked since lock down 1 began.

But teachers and support staff were still working as children were still being educated, and i make no apology for making the case for my wife to be vaccinated ahead of myself!

I am not advocating that a full stop is put on the vaccination programme while ALL workers at higher risk are dealt with, i just think its easy enough to make a re-arrangement to accommodate All the workers we have both mentioned.

It should be remembered that Cohort 6 has quite rightly been greatly expanded in Scotland to include people who were missed by the JCVI, and maybe doubled, which has not caused any targets to fall back, and maybe moved the final offer date forward!

I really don't like you editing my post,i am on a cancer drug developed in 1948 in America that supresses your immune system and leaves you vulnerable to something that will probably kill those on it early.
Teachers in the same position as me have probably never been in a school since the first lockdown BUT have been remunerated in FULL,so i'm sorry but i am never going to back the young,fit and able to jump the Q,FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

Just to show you how people in my category of worker are classed by their customers i will give you nothing but the FACTS.Tonight i phoned or sent texts to 11 houses from Dundee to Monikie to tell them we were due tomorrow and can they just send an OK to confirm.
Ten out of the 11 replied two of them millionaires who said they were delighted we were back in business the only customer not prepared to reply was an FN teacher from ST Johns,he was sent 3 messages one saying,"I have done all the work sending the messages and all i require in reply is an OK.
They just consider themselves above me even if they have went to work or hidden from the virus for a year on full pay,FACT.

Without my and others business acumen they would ALL be redundant,FACT.