THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[laddo]

I think we did a great rebuild job last year and there wasn't really a bad signing maybe Shields. We had very few loan players last season which was a departure from previous. We seem to have gone back to that a lot more this season sometimes for good reason but look whats happened. Coincidence? Well who knows. I perhaps think it has been misjudged and the reason people think its a positive is that we are largely signing players from the league above. If we break down this seasons signings lets see:

Rodrigues - patchy
Sam - very patchy
Reeves - patchy
Wolfe - who?
Knowles - patchy
Pilling - Looks good cover
Chicksen - patchy (ostracized)
Effiong - a Failure so far
Sloth - less said better

This seasons better performers are last seasons signings.

Agree last season was better, the fact people including yourself are only mentioning 1 or 2 bad signings is the reason I'm saying that overall it's been an upgrade, positive and good.

This season clearly not so good, but if all those players listed (who were with Notts) were judged 1 month ago then they wouldn't be labelled at patchy or very patchy. That's my whole point, they've all taken a down tick since then clearly as has perfomances but it's down to timing.

Knowles best example, patchy now but how long ago was their a thread saying is he undroppable? It wasn't long ago at all. Both extremes clearly which is so NCM

[matt_magpie]

I think we did a great rebuild job last year and there wasn't really a bad signing maybe Shields. We had very few loan players last season which was a departure from previous. We seem to have gone back to that a lot more this season sometimes for good reason but look whats happened. Coincidence? Well who knows. I perhaps think it has been misjudged and the reason people think its a positive is that we are largely signing players from the league above. If we break down this seasons signings lets see:

Rodrigues - patchy
Sam - very patchy
Reeves - patchy
Wolfe - who?
Knowles - patchy
Pilling - Looks good cover
Chicksen - patchy (ostracized)
Effiong - a Failure so far
Sloth - less said better

This seasons better performers are last seasons signings.

Agree with that and when you think budget wise these players can’t be on a great deal (expect Reeves cost a bit more), you can look at that positively or negatively, be interesting if we keep Enzio next season, I imagine he’s the top earner followed by Doyle possibly

[optipez]

Agree last season was better, the fact people including yourself are only mentioning 1 or 2 bad signings is the reason I'm saying that overall it's been an upgrade, positive and good.

This season clearly not so good, but if all those players listed (who were with Notts) were judged 1 month ago then they wouldn't be labelled at patchy or very patchy. That's my whole point, they've all taken a down tick since then clearly as has perfomances but it's down to timing.

Knowles best example, patchy now but how long ago was their a thread saying is he undroppable? It wasn't long ago at all. Both extremes clearly which is so NCM

That's not true laddo. We've been nicking 1-0 wins and the defence has been great but 4 of the back 5 were here last season, only left back is new.
At no point have any of this season's signings maintained a Rawlinson / Wootton level of performance. All this season's best performers were here last season.

[laddo]

What in particular not true? I said this seasons signings haven't been as good, they've been more risky for sure and haven't delivered to same level. Agree nobody has reached Rawlinson and Wootton performance levels from either seasons signings. They have been the standout 2.

Would Rodders and Knowles be called Patchy signings at the start of February?

Rodders has obvious potential, but clearly it's getting him more disciplined and more consistent.

They certainly weren't on past threads when they've been discussed. People were very keen for Notts to sign Knowles. Demands for Wolfe to play, maybe that was more down to the Doyle / Reeves pairing lol.

Reeves has been average but not bad until past month in my eyes.

Just think we are judging them clearly at the low point for all the players this season.

[durhampie]

What in particular not true? I said this seasons signings haven't been as good, they've been more risky for sure and haven't delivered to same level. Agree nobody has reached Rawlinson and Wootton performance levels from either seasons signings. They have been the standout 2.

Would Rodders and Knowles be called Patchy signings at the start of February?

Rodders has obvious potential, but clearly it's getting him more disciplined and more consistent.

They certainly weren't on past threads when they've been discussed. People were very keen for Notts to sign Knowles. Demands for Wolfe to play, maybe that was more down to the Doyle / Reeves pairing lol.

Reeves has been average but not bad until past month in my eyes.

Just think we are judging them clearly at the low point for all the players this season.

I feel sorry for both Knowles and wootton. The service to them has been abysmal. They are forever having to feed off scraps. Rodrigues is a showboater, and his contribution per game is minimal to say the least..He has now had long enough to adjust to the pace of the game, but he is now a luxury that needs offloading.

Apart from Roberts, all of Ardleys other signings are worse than those that left..

[Kyle95]

The fact he hasn’t gone after the last 6/7 performances especially the one last night, tells me he’s going to be here until at least the end of the season.

I hope the brothers have deep pockets, because we will still be a NL club next season, and if we are I think that means we won’t have any parachute payment.

Added to that we will lose the academy which is looking the best it has in years, (unless the brothers want to fund the academy also) these are worrying times. We are in serious danger of becoming the new Wrexham, the longer Ardley stays.

The scary part is, if we finish outside the play offs, but in the top half, I can see the brothers giving Ardley a new deal...

[Elite_Pie]

Recruitment should be better than it is for one obvious reason - in League 2 we were competing with most other clubs on a fairly equal level, in the National League we are a more attractive proposition than any other club. That's what pisses me off a bit when Ardley's win percentage is quoted. Of course it's better than some, because he's playing much smaller and even part-time clubs!

[Kyle95]

Recruitment should be better than it is for one obvious reason - in League 2 we were competing with most other clubs on a fairly equal level, in the National League we are a more attractive proposition than any other club. That's what pisses me off a bit when Ardley's win percentage is quoted. Of course it's better than some, because he's playing much smaller and even part-time clubs!

Not only that, apparently we ‘analyse’ every signing we make, so if that’s the case, why have the majority of this seasons signings been p*** poor? I reckon Neil Cox had more of a say than people thought, as soon as he left the club, performances dropped, and our transfer business has gone downhill. Some may say that’s a coincidence, but I don’t like coincidences...

[uysapie]

Not only that, apparently we ‘analyse’ every signing we make, so if that’s the case, why have the majority of this seasons signings been p*** poor? I reckon Neil Cox had more of a say than people thought, as soon as he left the club, performances dropped, and our transfer business has gone downhill. Some may say that’s a coincidence, but I don’t like coincidences...

Also coincides with Abbott's arrival.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

I think we did a great rebuild job last year and there wasn't really a bad signing maybe Shields. We had very few loan players last season which was a departure from previous. We seem to have gone back to that a lot more this season sometimes for good reason but look whats happened. Coincidence? Well who knows. I perhaps think it has been misjudged and the reason people think its a positive is that we are largely signing players from the league above. If we break down this seasons signings lets see:

Rodrigues - patchy
Sam - very patchy
Reeves - patchy
Wolfe - who?
Knowles - patchy
Pilling - Looks good cover
Chicksen - patchy (ostracized)
Effiong - a Failure so far
Sloth - less said better

This seasons better performers are last seasons signings.

I agree that the rebuilding job from relegation was a good one and a year ago this weekend coming were were flying high and beat Eastleigh 4-0 and looked the business in the last game the fans could attend. The side that day was McDonnel, Rawlinson, Lacey, Brindley, Bagan, Doyle, Rose, Boldewijn, Roberts, Dennis and Wootton.

Four of that starting eleven are no longer at the club and one has been injured most of the season. Likewise the assistant manager that day is not here anymore. That's too much change on the face of it.

I think the loss of Dennis, Thomas and the injury to Roberts has been detrimental to this season thus far and one of the reasons why we have not scored enough goals first and foremost. In defence of the manager he can't be blamed for losing Thomas and Roberts. What we have to do is adequately replace all of those with like for like in my opinion, or those who are there need to step up. Likewise our creativity and dead ball threat has been timid this season which has compounded this.

For me our best defence is Slocombe, Rawlinson, Lacey, Brindley and DKE. The sooner those can get back together the more settled we may become.

Whilst we have needed to sign a few players and loans to cover for positions I'm wondering if the incomings this season are having a negative affect on team spirit and morale?