Scottish Government moving the goalposts

[jdfc]

Sorry mis read post, mental justice system, we have our own laws so it’s up to us if we want to change them, nippy has history for changing things

[Taintedice]

Jesus, and you worked all this out whilst you invented the vaccine, what’s your next project

Think you've got me confused with someone else.

[Taintedice]

Scotland doesn’t pay for trident, Westminster does, it helps create hundreds of not thousands of jobs in Scotland,
MP’s expenses, the boy Blackford is one of, if not the highest expense’s claimer
Mental health, we can do that now
Raise taxes, we already pay more as we have the right now to raise them

I’m not guessing re trade problems, SNP say they will return to the EU, so we are governed by them when it come to trade, though tainted might get a position in Brussels that allows us to by pass everything,

I asked what you seen as benefits to us, can you come up with any

You're pricklier than rros and that's some feat

[Taintedice]

I am not sure that putting up taxes will be a straightforward exercise. My understanding is that the taxes raised in Scotland are less than the amount of the block grant that is used just now. I don't want to disappear down the Barnett Formula rabbit hole but I have not found a credible explanation as to why this is not a problem for an independent Scotland.

Taxes estimated for Scotland excluding companies headquartered in England but making profits in Scotland are at 65bn last GERS with the block grant at 35bn. Further spending in Scotland takes that up to around 65bn, so the deficit is UK spending allocated to Scotland. Post-independence, companies may be expected to headquarter in Scotland or at least pay tax on profits from sales in Scotland. Too bad jdfc has discounted the whole oil industry or we'd be rolling in it

[Returnofrros]

Sorry mis read post, mental justice system, we have our own laws so it’s up to us if we want to change them, nippy has history for changing things

Jim Sillars hits nail on head with free speech bill.

Superb.

[Returnofrros]

"I regard this as one of the most pernicious and dangerous pieces of legislation ever produced by ANY Govt in modern times in ANY part of the UK"

Ahh Jim, love it.

[Returnofrros]

Jim Sillars 2

" Nicoliar runs Scotland like the dictator of Belorussia"

😁🤣🤣

Who cud disagree.

[Deeranged]

The Sturgfuhrer is the biggest problem the SNP currently has from the perspective of me as an independence supporter - well her and that arrogant **** Blackford.

She's driving people away from the SNP because anyone with half a clue can see what she is and wants nothing to do with her party - yes, her party. She's a cross between Adolf and Thatcher she's selfish, dictatorial, pig headed and very dangerous and she'll never cede power willingly.

The only way to oust her will be a split in her party or the rise of a genuine opposition independence party that has an eye on more than just power for its leadership and actually wants what's best for the country.

[Returnofrros]

The Sturgfuhrer is the biggest problem the SNP currently has from the perspective of me as an independence supporter - well her and that arrogant **** Blackford.

She's driving people away from the SNP because anyone with half a clue can see what she is and wants nothing to do with her party - yes, her party. She's a cross between Adolf and Thatcher she's selfish, dictatorial, pig headed and very dangerous and she'll never cede power willingly.

The only way to oust her will be a split in her party or the rise of a genuine opposition independence party that has an eye on more than just power for its leadership and actually wants what's best for the country.

Sturgeon is creating a country, where being "normal" is frowned upon. If you don't belong to some self identified minority or ***ual fetish club you are a Neanderthal.

Been warning of the free speech bill for around 15 months or so, now it's here.

This party has and continues to turn Scotland into a banana republic.

I don't scare that easily but I'm now fearful of what's happening up here.

I just don't think people think it will effect them......it will....whether that's in the form of being ubber cautious of what you think and say and to whom or at the other end of the scale whether you end up in court.

[BCram]

Not being serious but not joking either. Could this be the way that Putin and other dictators got started? Maybe it is better to vote in a way that stops Nicola rather than take the issue as being only about independence. The discussion needs to be fair and reasonable because name calling and banter won't help or persuade SNP supporters like Taintedice to review their support for the way Nicola is running her party and with help from the Greens, the country. I think the story that the emails requested by the Salmond committee are missing is really sinister. Why are they missing? The fact that they are missing implies that they did exist.
I am not convinced that we are doomed but there do seem to be changes in our ability to think what we want.