Scottish Government moving the goalposts

[Taintedice]

I support the SNP in elections as a means of achieving a barrier between Scotland and the tories, for obvious reasons. England has suffered anywhere up to 500,000 premature deaths under the tories at the same time billions are given out to cronies and tory party backers. If there was another Scottish party others than the Greens, I'd likely support them. Can't fathom why people will vote for parties controlled from a different country, how do I dissuade you from that is more pertinent to me.

[Taintedice]

And it's not just the tories, under labour in the 2000s, the block grant went underspent by £1.5bn whilst hundreds were dying from MSRA in hospitals. That doesn't happen any more, now a single person dying from infection in hospital is front-page news. deecom already mentioned how Blair and Dewar moved the maritime border to make Scotland seem less wealthy, now they have a millionaire chosen by other millionaires, promising to tackle poverty, seemingly oblivious to labour's war on women in Glasgow for decades.

[BCram]

I support the SNP in elections as a means of achieving a barrier between Scotland and the tories, for obvious reasons. England has suffered anywhere up to 500,000 premature deaths under the tories at the same time billions are given out to cronies and tory party backers. If there was another Scottish party others than the Greens, I'd likely support them. Can't fathom why people will vote for parties controlled from a different country, how do I dissuade you from that is more pertinent to me.

I think the trouble is that I see Britain and Scotland as being part of my heritage. I think Labour has moved from being the natural socialist party in Scotland, to a left of centre socially inclusive party ( Tony Blair) and then went a bit Marxist under Corbyn. I don't think the Scottish electorate has moved much at all. SNP have cannibalised votes from Conservative and Labour voters, some no doubt will be fully committed to the cause of independence, but equally there will be some who support them for the very reason that you have given ie they are not controlled from Westminster.

I don't think that is a good reason for voting SNP and maybe there will be more people who look at the performance of the SNP and realise that perhaps it would be better to have three parties discussing policies and agreeing plans to make Scotland the best place to stay and work and learn in the UK. If an electorate does not flex its muscles and change the mix in parliament I think you get poor leadership and a lack of initiative.

Just my view.

[Taintedice]

These are elections for the devolved parliament, no idea what the constitution has to do with it. There is a lot of talk about mandates for indyref2 which is a convenient smokescreen for the British parties to avoid talking about their non-existent manifestos. Guaranteed you couldn't name a single tory party policy for Scotland right now. That's because Johnson hasn't told them what they are allowed to say yet. And that's because he has no interest in Scots or Scotland. Why would you vote for that?

[BCram]

These are elections for the devolved parliament, no idea what the constitution has to do with it. There is a lot of talk about mandates for indyref2 which is a convenient smokescreen for the British parties to avoid talking about their non-existent manifestos. Guaranteed you couldn't name a single tory party policy for Scotland right now. That's because Johnson hasn't told them what they are allowed to say yet. And that's because he has no interest in Scots or Scotland. Why would you vote for that?

The way the SNP have behaved over the Salmond Committee has shown that there is a problem when Holyrood wants to hold the Scottish government to account. Something needs to be changed and I don't think another government which has independence as it its main motivation will do that.

[BCram]

Just a wee list of Scottish Conservative policies. Not the sort of post I would normally make but you did ask for examples.

Sector-specific Job Security Councils to help laid-off workers transition and find skilled work, based on Sweden’s hugely successful retraining programmes.A Town Centre Rescue Plan to help small local shops adapt and free up planning restrictions.A ‘Scotland First’ procurement strategy to have the government spend more money locally.A Scottish education guarantee to age 18 and expanded adult learning programmes.Community Right to Buy schemes for local pubs and other employers in fragile areas.Scottish Enterprise reformed on regional lines and new Rural Growth deals to spread high-quality jobs and business growth across the country.A yellow/red card system for businesses who make late payments and bid for public work.A new research and development target with better incentives for innovation.A Hardship Fund for businesses facing localised lockdowns.

[Returnofrros]

Not being serious but not joking either. Could this be the way that Putin and other dictators got started? Maybe it is better to vote in a way that stops Nicola rather than take the issue as being only about independence. The discussion needs to be fair and reasonable because name calling and banter won't help or persuade SNP supporters like Taintedice to review their support for the way Nicola is running her party and with help from the Greens, the country. I think the story that the emails requested by the Salmond committee are missing is really sinister. Why are they missing? The fact that they are missing implies that they did exist.
I am not convinced that we are doomed but there do seem to be changes in our ability to think what we want.

5 polls on the trot now favour Unity.

Ist vote main opposition to SNP, 2nd vote Alliance for Unity.

Evil and corruption is rampant at Hollyrood.

I'd say drain the swamp but think someone beat me to it.😁

[BCram]

5 polls on the trot now favour Unity.

Ist vote main opposition to SNP, 2nd vote Alliance for Unity.

Evil and corruption is rampant at Hollyrood.

I'd say drain the swamp but think someone beat me to it.��

Are you his election agent?

[Returnofrros]

Are you his election agent?

Too busy stopping an SNP majority.😎

[eric_sinclair]

Too busy stopping an SNP majority.��

Its all set up for eck to come back to unite the masses.
Its in the stars