O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Geoff Parkstone]

I didn't know rA was French?

[MadAmster]

The Dutch government has just suspended use of the AZ vaccine for 2 weeks to investigate the cases of thrombosis seen in Europe. Apparently, 6 people out of the 17 million people who had the AZ vaccine, have had thrombosis afterwards. They are looking at the facts, they say, to find out if it's caused by the vaccine or by underlying conditions.

6 out of 17 million seems to be cause for concern.

[Trickytreesreds]

The Dutch government has just suspended use of the AZ vaccine for 2 weeks to investigate the cases of thrombosis seen in Europe. Apparently, 6 people out of the 17 million people who had the AZ vaccine, have had thrombosis afterwards. They are looking at the facts, they say, to find out if it's caused by the vaccine or by underlying conditions.

6 out of 17 million seems to be cause for concern.

Better safe than sorry, those odds are horrific.
They are nearly as bad as the 1 in 3.75 million to one, of being eaten by a shark.

[Andy_Faber]

The Dutch government has just suspended use of the AZ vaccine for 2 weeks to investigate the cases of thrombosis seen in Europe. Apparently, 6 people out of the 17 million people who had the AZ vaccine, have had thrombosis afterwards. They are looking at the facts, they say, to find out if it's caused by the vaccine or by underlying conditions.

6 out of 17 million seems to be cause for concern.

I can't work out if you're being sarcastic there

[Andy_Faber]

Better safe than sorry, those odds are horrific.
They are nearly as bad as the 1 in 3.75 million to one, of being eaten by a shark.

Being a bit less flippant I pointed out to a facebook friend at the weekend that she can hardly have an issue with the Covid vaccine based on the odds being quoted when she has just come off a five year course of Tamoxifen which has thrombosis odds about 1000 times higher (I know that because I took it too). She took the point and will be taking the second dose

[ramAnag]

I didn't know rA was French?

Mais oui mon ami, et oui, je crois que le Government est une groupe de menteurs.

[MadAmster]

A very good friend of mine had the AZ (1st dose) last Saturday. Felt fine for 2 hours then he "felt like he'd been hit by a 30 ton juggernaut". Today he's feeling slightly better having slept for much of the past 48 hours.

[Andy_Faber]

A very good friend of mine had the AZ (1st dose) last Saturday. Felt fine for 2 hours then he "felt like he'd been hit by a 30 ton juggernaut". Today he's feeling slightly better having slept for much of the past 48 hours.

Sorry MA I just deleted your previous post in error, banana fingers and all that

this was the narrative

Madamster:

Not this time Andy. Continuously looking at events following vaccination and investigating things like instances of thrombosis is perfectly sensible. None of those 6 who experienced thrombosis following the vaccination has died.

In the past week, 238 have died from/with Covid in the Netherlands. There are 17.5M Dutch residents.

I would be shocked if those 6 cases of thrombosis weren't investigated. However, stopping use of the AZ vaccine does seem like overkill.

[ramAnag]

A very good friend of mine had the AZ (1st dose) last Saturday. Felt fine for 2 hours then he "felt like he'd been hit by a 30 ton juggernaut". Today he's feeling slightly better having slept for much of the past 48 hours.

MAYBE...this is just the ‘nature of the beast’...the same for vaccinations as it is for Covid itself, and other illnesses, come to that.

We all know people who have flu badly and take a month or more to recover while others are over it in a week. Likewise with Covid...I know a couple of people who’ve had it and been fully recovered within ten days while others clearly don’t even know they’ve had it and some are still seriously struggling after almost a year.

Should we be surprised then that people react differently to the vaccine? The vast majority of people I know have described no ill effects, or a slightly stiff arm at worst, while a small minority have suggested they felt somewhere between ‘a bit off colour’ to ‘unwell’ for a week or so afterwards.

Much the same has been the case with the flu vaccine but, personally, I’d prefer to take the minimal risk and be vaccinated.

[Trickytreesreds]

Being a bit less flippant I pointed out to a facebook friend at the weekend that she can hardly have an issue with the Covid vaccine based on the odds being quoted when she has just come off a five year course of Tamoxifen which has thrombosis odds about 1000 times higher (I know that because I took it too). She took the point and will be taking the second dose

Andy, any drugs ingested into the human body carry risks.
Lets take Manijuana for instance. There's a reason it's illegal. Those that take it daily or weekly, are at a 50% higher risk of mental health problems.
Yet folks still do it and there is a big lobby for legalisation.

I'll have the vaccine thanks. Those odds don't worry me. Still makes me wonder any objection to AZ is political.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/theres-no-...070055771.html