O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[MadAmster]

.... and they waffle on about money bla bla bla without mentioning that AZ are charging 2.50 a shot and the other suppliers between 15 and 20.

Of course, telling the full story wouldn't help their narrative.......

[Geoff Parkstone]

Maybe I'm missing your point re money here, MA, but you'd think that the buyers of the vaccine (the EU members and other governments) would try to discredit the mores expensive (Pfizer, Moderna) vaccines rather than the cheaper AZ one?

Or are you suggesting that the deep pocketed Pfizer backhander budgets are influencing the individual decision makers thoughts?

[Andy_Faber]

365000 willing British arms yesterday spoke more loudly than a roomful of EU politicians

[Trickytreesreds]

Threats, threats and more threats.

First they want, then they don't. Then they trash it as useless, but disrupt Ireland.
Then they suspend it because it's not safe.
Now we are back on the hijacking train of blocking exports.

You really couldn't make this **** up.
I'm sorry RA, you get angry when I post things like this, but it really throws it in your face when you preach the "lets all be in this together act"

We aren't in it together. The EU is an animal out of control in many ways. This is the latest balls up.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...re/ar-BB1eGksb

ps I love this line-

Ursula von der Leyen
“We want to see reciprocity and proportionality in exports and we are ready to use whatever tool we need to deliver on that,”

Really? You could have fooled me, with the way you block things?

[Andy_Faber]

Threats, threats and more threats.

First they want, then they don't. Then they trash it as useless, but disrupt Ireland.
Then they suspend it because it's not safe.
Now we are back on the hijacking train of blocking exports.

You really couldn't make this **** up.
I'm sorry RA, you get angry when I post things like this, but it really throws it in your face when you preach the "lets all be in this together act"

We aren't in it together. The EU is an animal out of control in many ways. This is the latest balls up.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...re/ar-BB1eGksb

ps I love this line-

Ursula von der Leyen
“We want to see reciprocity and proportionality in exports and we are ready to use whatever tool we need to deliver on that,”

Really? You could have fooled me, with the way you block things?

TTR beat me to it, this just isn’t cricket

[Geoff Parkstone]

From your link Tricky:

"Von der Leyen said the bloc was in “the crisis of the century. We have to make sure Europeans are vaccinated as soon as possible. Human lives, civil liberties and our economy are dependent on the speed of vaccination on moving forward.”

How does this accord with the suspension of administering AZ shots in may EU member states for what seems like minimal reason?

[Trickytreesreds]

GP, forget my political allegences.
This is peoples lives. This body is out of control and making decision after decision, that makes its original **** up look miniscule.

I'm not surprised the mood among EU citizens is growing angrier. They'd rather sacrifice your grandma, rather than release an inch of control.
It makes the USSR look like Butlins

[ramAnag]

I'm sorry RA, you get angry when I post things like this, but it really throws it in your face when you preach the "lets all be in this together act"

No I don’t. I get irritated when people start making political capital out of human tragedy. I do believe we should ‘all be in this together’ but I also sadly recognise that, if things are as suggested, then the EU is acting appallingly over vaccines.

[Andy_Faber]

No I don’t. I get irritated when people start making political capital out of human tragedy. I do believe we should ‘all be in this together’ but I also sadly recognise that, if things are as suggested, then the EU is acting appallingly over vaccines.

One thing thats not been mentioned, and it would have been if this was happening in UK, where we have an opposition to call out the failings of the administration, is that she may be 'fighting' for her job. This is a Hell of a FUBAR and I reckon, deep in the Commision's darkest vaults, someone or some many will be deciding on a scapegoat

[MadAmster]

Maybe I'm missing your point re money here, MA, but you'd think that the buyers of the vaccine (the EU members and other governments) would try to discredit the mores expensive (Pfizer, Moderna) vaccines rather than the cheaper AZ one?

Or are you suggesting that the deep pocketed Pfizer backhander budgets are influencing the individual decision makers thoughts?

And/or governments don't want the poor shareholders of Pfizer/Moderna to suffer any further.