O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Andy_Faber]

I must say that in an age of equality, women (rightly) being let into traditionally male domains such as golf clubs, yacht clubs etc it seems a backward step to have segregated vaccine centres. But if it works - and I assume it is focussed on a particular niche group - and gets the %age vaccinated up, then why not??

Why not (and stressing that I have no axe to grind about one niche group over another) because if the effort is coming out of a finite resource, then its not making best use of the resources available. Addressing the significantly bigger, 'non niche' population would provide a bigger bang for the buck just based on simple maths, assuming any given soul is equally as likely to get vacced as a result of any presure applied

[swaledale]

Why not (and stressing that I have no axe to grind about one niche group over another) because if the effort is coming out of a finite resource, then its not making best use of the resources available. Addressing the significantly bigger, 'non niche' population would provide a bigger bang for the buck just based on simple maths, assuming any given soul is equally as likely to get vacced as a result of any presure applied

Thats counter intuitive surely? Those that will willingly get and can access the vaccine are dong so, so it makes sense to target those "harder to reach" groups so that we do not have a significant number of unvaccinated people in the country. Otherwise there is the potential for mutant variants occurring which existing vaccines may not be so effective against.

But then you do have quite a narrow prism through which you view the world.

[Andy_Faber]

Thats counter intuitive surely? Those that will willingly get and can access the vaccine are dong so, so it makes sense to target those "harder to reach" groups so that we do not have a significant number of unvaccinated people in the country. Otherwise there is the potential for mutant variants occurring which existing vaccines may not be so effective against.

But then you do have quite a narrow prism through which you view the world.

What do you mean 'harder to reach', this isn't bloody Mars. I'd explain the maths to you as I have done with other folk but I've learned that you will not be enlightened by anyone you don't see in mirror image

[swaledale]

What do you mean 'harder to reach', this isn't bloody Mars. I'd explain the maths to you as I have done with other folk but I've learned that you will not be enlightened by anyone you don't see in mirror image

You have just displayed your complete ignorance of other peoples lives in your post! Its rather ironic that having shown your ignorance, (not for the first time I might add) you then accuse me of not being or wanting to be enlightened!

Still I guess anybody who uses words like xenophobia and casual racism in the wrong context and clearly not understanding what they mean is bound to be a little narrow in his understanding of the world in which we live.

So I guess I'd better explain in words of one syllable so even you can perhaps become a little enlightened.

For a start there are the undocumented, some of whom will be illegal immigrants, they need to be vaccinated for our sakes and they ain't going to be caught by the system.

There are those who are transient, homeless, or living on the fringes of society more than likely not on any NHS list.

There are those in different ethnic and religious groups whose interaction with the system is limited, those who are suspicious of the vaccine, etc. etc.

I could go on but I assume that you even you get the picture, that there are literally millions of people who won't be vaccinated unless extensive efforts are made to to inform them, contact them and offer appropriate access to the vaccine.

I understand that you live in a bubble and assume everyone lives like you and thinks like you and I can more than likely predict your response to the efforts required to ensure as many as possible get vaccinated.

[Andy_Faber]

You have just displayed your complete ignorance of other peoples lives in your post! Its rather ironic that having shown your ignorance, (not for the first time I might add) you then accuse me of not being or wanting to be enlightened!

Still I guess anybody who uses words like xenophobia and casual racism in the wrong context and clearly not understanding what they mean is bound to be a little narrow in his understanding of the world in which we live.

So I guess I'd better explain in words of one syllable so even you can perhaps become a little enlightened.

For a start there are the undocumented, some of whom will be illegal immigrants, they need to be vaccinated for our sakes and they ain't going to be caught by the system.

There are those who are transient, homeless, or living on the fringes of society more than likely not on any NHS list.

There are those in different ethnic and religious groups whose interaction with the system is limited, those who are suspicious of the vaccine, etc. etc.

I could go on but I assume that you even you get the picture, that there are literally millions of people who won't be vaccinated unless extensive efforts are made to to inform them, contact them and offer appropriate access to the vaccine.

I understand that you live in a bubble and assume everyone lives like you and thinks like you and I can more than likely predict your response to the efforts required to ensure as many as possible get vaccinated.

you're still sore about being outed aren't you

[swaledale]

you're still sore about being outed aren't you

Blimey you really are quite dim aren't you? How did you in any way "out" me? I mean despite repeated requests you ahve never managed to explain or substantiate those comments.

I just find it so funny that you demonstrated your ignorance that its amusing to remind you of how stupid you look making them. Again perhaps you'd do well to read the definition of those words, I assume you can read?

As is your usual practice (you must be taking a leaf out of the Johnson playbook here) you make an assertion then when given an explanation ignore it.


Ah well given the bull**** and made up nonsense you post its not surprising your unable to recognise facts.