Scottish Government moving the goalposts

[Taintedice]

Everyone working in the NHS throughout the whole of the UK should get the same pay rise.
The furlough money is sent to Scotland based on the Barnett Formula. Today it has been reported that only one third of self employed driving instructors, mobile hairdressers and tattoo artists in Scotland have received their £4,000 grant that they were entitled to receive from the Scottish Government under the laid down rules of the furlough scheme. It was reported on BBC Reporting Scotland that people had applied for their grant but their application was rejected. I would not be surprised if Nippy has used that money to give the 4% pay rise to the nurses etc in NHS Scotland.
She certainly seemed to be able to magic up the money from somewhere unless of course it was from the SNP magic money tree.

As you will know, the NHS in Scotland has nothing to do with the NHS in England, it is not 'devolved'. If the tory government want to match the pay rise in Scotland, then that is very easy for them to do. They found £22bn for failed Track and Trace and even though it was a complete failure, that sum is rising to £37bn. That is an astronomical sum of money, the human brain cannot even compute how much money that is, you needs computers to work it out.

Think you're mixed up about furlough, this as far as I understand relates to workers on PAYE, not those who are self-employed. Self-employed have been neglected in the UK due to the rules adopted by the UK govt last March. There are 3m people excluded from support, they don't all live in Scotland. If all you listen to is the BBC then it's no surprise you think everything is negative.

[Taintedice]

Not at all.

I want everyone to moan, complain and demand....not just me.

But the pandemic is real, protecting lives is real. I'm not going to demand my 'freedom' at the cost of someone else's life, quite happy to give up a year for my parents to still be alive and now vaccinated.

[islaydarkblue]

The caution exercised in Scotland has been just as much about the May elections as controlling the virus. Come June, there will be hardly any 'with covid' deaths at all and those will be very dubious involving very elderly people, there will be no reason for any restrictions. These are just my opinions, I'm not saying any of this is fact, I'll leave that to 'others'. I'm happy to give them till June before declaring myself one of your crew, assuming I'm allowed to join

The biggest problem of the lot is going to be when everyone comes out of lockdown including those who have been shielding since 23rd March 2020. There is going to be an explosion of colds, flu and all the other air borne viruses as people have lost their immunity to being in large crowds.
Last Saturday my next door neighbour on Islay told me that when the schools returned last August nearly every pupil in her kids class at primary school caught the cold.

[Returnofrros]

But the pandemic is real, protecting lives is real. I'm not going to demand my 'freedom' at the cost of someone else's life, quite happy to give up a year for my parents to still be alive and now vaccinated.

1 year 3 days and counting.

How many 2, 3, 4 .....limited freedom forever?

Next pandemic? Same?

I'm sorry lockdown is wrong......it should never ever happen again.

[Returnofrros]

The biggest problem of the lot is going to be when everyone comes out of lockdown including those who have been shielding since 23rd March 2020. There is going to be an explosion of colds, flu and all the other air borne viruses as people have lost their immunity to being in large crowds.
Last Saturday my next door neighbour on Islay told me that when the schools returned last August nearly every pupil in her kids class at primary school caught the cold.

Islay, I think it's a very small proportion who are obeying every command from sturgeon, Johnson and Hancock.

I think they know this.

Johnson is frightened of his own shadow, Hancock is an alien ****ing being and sturgeon is more damaged than my ankles after 4 decades of 5 a sides.

They all have to be removed.

[islaydarkblue]

As you will know, the NHS in Scotland has nothing to do with the NHS in England, it is not 'devolved'. If the tory government want to match the pay rise in Scotland, then that is very easy for them to do. They found £22bn for failed Track and Trace and even though it was a complete failure, that sum is rising to £37bn. That is an astronomical sum of money, the human brain cannot even compute how much money that is, you needs computers to work it out.

Think you're mixed up about furlough, this as far as I understand relates to workers on PAYE, not those who are self-employed. Self-employed have been neglected in the UK due to the rules adopted by the UK govt last March. There are 3m people excluded from support, they don't all live in Scotland. If all you listen to is the BBC then it's no surprise you think everything is negative.

There are lots different groups who can claim money under the furlough scheme. It is not just reserved to people on PAYE.
People running self catering businesses were able to claim up to £10,000 whilst private members golf clubs could claim up £25,000.
The people who have lost out are the ones who have formed a limited company and then taken the bulk of their salary as a dividend to reduce the amount of tax and national insurance that they pay. It is a perfectly legal scheme until a national lockdown comes along and they cannot work.

[islaydarkblue]

Islay, I think it's a very small proportion who are obeying every command from sturgeon, Johnson and Hancock.

I think they know this.

Johnson is frightened of his own shadow, Hancock is an alien ****ing being and sturgeon is more damaged than my ankles after 4 decades of 5 a sides.

They all have to be removed.

If I had been diagnosed with the Covid-19 virus I would have had no hesitation in self isolating for a fortnight now reduced to ten days.
There is a very simple solution instead of spending a fortune on the Test and Trace which does not work throughout the U.K. due to a lack of ‘joined up thinking’.
People should have their temperature taken before they enter any shop, business premises, GP surgery, dentists or public building throughout the whole of the UK. If it was above a permitted level they would be told to immediately get a Covid-19 test and self isolate until they get their result.
Last April some of the prominent natives on Islay were very jumpy about Coronavirus (that is what it was called back then) being imported into the island. There was even talk about some of them standing on the pier at Port Ellen and Port Askaig and if they did not recognise anyone coming off the Calmac these people would be told to immediately travel back to Kennacraig.
If the staff in the Calmac ferry terminal at Kennacraig took the temperature of every person who arrived to sail on the ferry to Islay, anyone whose temperature was above certain limit would be prevented from sailing and told to immediately get a coronavirus test.
There would be no exemptions for local Islay residents. Every passenger would have to have their temperature taken before boarding the ferry sailing to Islay.

[islaydarkblue]

I am impressed that my topic has had 387 posts to date.

[Taintedice]

The biggest problem of the lot is going to be when everyone comes out of lockdown including those who have been shielding since 23rd March 2020. There is going to be an explosion of colds, flu and all the other air borne viruses as people have lost their immunity to being in large crowds.
Last Saturday my next door neighbour on Islay told me that when the schools returned last August nearly every pupil in her kids class at primary school caught the cold.

Everyone is going to have to decide for themselves how they live their lives when this is over, I'll be wearing a hoodie at Dens to avoid any gockles hitting my head from behind.

[Taintedice]

The main problem with the Test and Trace scheme is that each country in the U.K. wanted their own Test and Trace scheme which was not compatible with other parts of the U.K.
The NHS Scotland test and trace scheme does not work in the North of England whilst the NHS England test and taste scheme does not work in Scotland. Devolution may in some people’s eyes be wonderful but when we need a reliable Test and Trace scheme we need a ‘one size fits all’ scheme no matter how unpalatable that might be to the SNP controlled Scottish Government where Health is one of their devolved matters.

You're once again putting everything through the prism of devolution and why we should all just be one happy tra la la la alice in wonderland united kingdom. The various apps in use across the British Isles have probably tracked about 1% of cases, the actual track and trace was being done by people making phone calls from their bedrooms, since home working was the rage. Now, I've worked from home a bit and discipline can easily go if you're not being monitored, although not a problem for me as my work ethic is so strong but if you have hundreds of people working for home on low wages, how motivated are they going to be to keep making phone calls. You need to drop this stuff about the app, how many people actually downloaded one, when they were only compatible with the latest generations of Android and Apple anyway.

And I'll remind you again, the Scottish NHS is not devolved, it was never part of the UK.