Scottish Government moving the goalposts

[Deeranged]

Hallelujah.

It's been a long road but I'm delighted two people (yourself and trodee) who can post so eloquently are climbing aboard.

And it ain't anti sturgeon, down south almost as bad but not quite.

They are tryinging to control people's lives in the medium to long term....if say it's happening but it's actually happened.

Watch Charles walker pint of milk video.....daft.....but hits the mark.

Kind of helps explain the massive over reaction from day one, give them nothing now and they'll think the 50% we give them back at the end will be wonderful. Let's stick a new term out there for them to mull over 'the new normal', the mugs will accept it and still blindly vote for us.

I've banged the social control drum since day one whilst some certain posters insisted they knew better, they clearly didn't but keep trying to press the trust and compliance agenda. Remember I said it was all about the vaccine, how it was about the politicians handing out big money to their mates in the medical companies to push through and sell their vaccines and how we'd all be forced to have it? Boris attributes the success of the vaccination programme to 'capitalism and greed'. Remember around six or seven months ago I said we'd all have to carry papers that say we've been vaccinated or we wouldn't be allowed out our houses (OK out our houses was a bit extreme)? Looks like we might need to show our 'papieren' on demand if we want a pint in our local - how long until 'Covid Police' are proposed? People who will have absolute authority to stop you in the street and demand to see your papers? It's Nazi Germany in the modern age.

So kudos to BCram, Troodee and of course me and RRoS who both called this out for being decent posters who can see through the propaganda and scientific / government nonsensical, bumbling and confused bull****. We just need the other decent posters to wake up and smell the coffee now and we can all relax.

[Returnofrros]

Kind of helps explain the massive over reaction from day one, give them nothing now and they'll think the 50% we give them back at the end will be wonderful. Let's stick a new term out there for them to mull over 'the new normal', the mugs will accept it and still blindly vote for us.

I've banged the social control drum since day one whilst some certain posters insisted they knew better, they clearly didn't but keep trying to press the trust and compliance agenda. Remember I said it was all about the vaccine, how it was about the politicians handing out big money to their mates in the medical companies to push through and sell their vaccines and how we'd all be forced to have it? Boris attributes the success of the vaccination programme to 'capitalism and greed'. Remember around six or seven months ago I said we'd all have to carry papers that say we've been vaccinated or we wouldn't be allowed out our houses (OK out our houses was a bit extreme)? Looks like we might need to show our 'papieren' on demand if we want a pint in our local - how long until 'Covid Police' are proposed? People who will have absolute authority to stop you in the street and demand to see your papers? It's Nazi Germany in the modern age.

So kudos to BCram, Troodee and of course me and RRoS who both called this out for being decent posters who can see through the propaganda and scientific / government nonsensical, bumbling and confused bull****. We just need the other decent posters to wake up and smell the coffee now and we can all relax.

I'm no clever enough myself but I read people who are (or I think they are), who value freedom, that's who I trust.

Only some want this way of life, even people who argue on here don't.....I'm convinced of it....or I wuda gave up by now.

It took trodees post to make Bcram go and have a look at level 0......I'm really glad he did.

People on here were planning Sumner holidays only a few weeks back.....I was reading the posts and thinking what the he'll are they seeing that I'm not.

I still fervently hope I'm miles out but each month that passes I fear I'm no.

[Taintedice]

This is the actual advice for Level 0 in Scotland. I didn't believe it when I read it. It isn't a lockdown but in what world do our politicians and scientists exist if they think this is acceptable.

They will have to think again. I am joining Rross! I thought he was simply over reacting to the situation and that there would be a return to near normality. I was wrong - this is rubbish and there should be pressure to find a better way forward.

That was the advice for Level 0 in January, before the success or failure of the vaccine programme could be built in. Now almost all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated, I cannot see them continuing with levels beyond June/July, especially if the English government have opened up everything. Pointless going over to the dark side just yet, give it till June

[Returnofrros]

That was the advice for Level 0 in January, before the success or failure of the vaccine programme could be built in. Now almost all the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated, I cannot see them continuing with levels beyond June/July, especially if the English government have opened up everything. Pointless going over to the dark side just yet, give it till June

I sincerly hope you are correct.

[Taintedice]

They are tryinging to control people's lives in the medium to long term....if say it's happening but it's actually happened.

Nicola Sturgeon is not trying to control your life, she's trying to stop people from dying, in the same way an overprotective parent will try to stop their kids from tumbling off the slides at the playpark. At some point, they both know they'll have to let go and let nature take its course. You're needing deprogrammed from this Hitchens brainwashing

[Taintedice]

I sincerly hope you are correct.

The caution exercised in Scotland has been just as much about the May elections as controlling the virus. Come June, there will be hardly any 'with covid' deaths at all and those will be very dubious involving very elderly people, there will be no reason for any restrictions. These are just my opinions, I'm not saying any of this is fact, I'll leave that to 'others'. I'm happy to give them till June before declaring myself one of your crew, assuming I'm allowed to join

[Returnofrros]

Nicola Sturgeon is not trying to control your life, she's trying to stop people from dying, in the same way an overprotective parent will try to stop their kids from tumbling off the slides at the playpark. At some point, they both know they'll have to let go and let nature take its course. You're needing deprogrammed from this Hitchens brainwashing

Disagree.....completely.

[Returnofrros]

The caution exercised in Scotland has been just as much about the May elections as controlling the virus. Come June, there will be hardly any 'with covid' deaths at all and those will be very dubious involving very elderly people, there will be no reason for any restrictions. These are just my opinions, I'm not saying any of this is fact, I'll leave that to 'others'. I'm happy to give them till June before declaring myself one of your crew, assuming I'm allowed to join

I don't have a "crew".....I have disciples.😎

In all seriousness I know some are now getting edgey about the situation.....it's difficult to comprehend why politicians would do this to our country....we had a plan to deal with pandemics it was abandoned once Johnson got ill......despite being in place for 30 odd years.

[islaydarkblue]

Please explain the benefit in bribing a small percentage of an electorate at the risk of hacking off a much larger percentage who will expect the same treatment.

Nicola Sturgeon will do anything to remain in power and if it means giving a large number health service staff an inflatable busting pay increase and announcing it on the final day before van election campaign she will do it. She craves power come what may.

[Taintedice]

Disagree.....completely.

You're hoping for the worst, I'm hoping for the 'best', we'll see what happens in the summer, no-one is going to be proven right or wrong in March.