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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    You're once again putting everything through the prism of devolution and why we should all just be one happy tra la la la alice in wonderland united kingdom. The various apps in use across the British Isles have probably tracked about 1% of cases, the actual track and trace was being done by people making phone calls from their bedrooms, since home working was the rage. Now, I've worked from home a bit and discipline can easily go if you're not being monitored, although not a problem for me as my work ethic is so strong but if you have hundreds of people working for home on low wages, how motivated are they going to be to keep making phone calls. You need to drop this stuff about the app, how many people actually downloaded one, when they were only compatible with the latest generations of Android and Apple anyway.

    And I'll remind you again, the Scottish NHS is not devolved, it was never part of the UK.
    I have previously posted this information on Dundee Mad but I will try again.
    Last October a friend of mine who lives on Islay had to travel to Liverpool for a family funeral. Prior to leaving Islay he downloaded the NHS Scotland Test and Trace app. He stopped at a service station on the M6 for a meal en route to Liverpool and tried to use his NHS Scotland Test and Trace app at the motorway service station. It did not work as it can only be used in Scotland. My friend had to write his contact details on a piece of paper and hand it to the manager of the restaurant. So much for modern technology. There is no substitute for the old fashioned method - pen and paper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I have previously posted this information on Dundee Mad but I will try again.
    Last October a friend of mine who lives on Islay had to travel to Liverpool for a family funeral. Prior to leaving Islay he downloaded the NHS Scotland Test and Trace app. He stopped at a service station on the M6 for a meal en route to Liverpool and tried to use his NHS Scotland Test and Trace app at the motorway service station. It did not work as it can only be used in Scotland. My friend had to write his contact details on a piece of paper and hand it to the manager of the restaurant. So much for modern technology. There is no substitute for the old fashioned method - pen and paper!
    I hate to keep nipping at you but honestly nothing of that is remotely how the app works. Every hospitality venue was expected to keep a record of visitors, some used pen and paper, some had QR codes which should have been mandatory imo. This was completely separate to the apps, which can function anywhere in the world because they are just apps. The problem is, the Scottish app wouldn't talk to the English app because they were different technologies. I wouldn't try to find the result of Dundee's game on an app which only covered the bundesliga, would I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    I hate to keep nipping at you but honestly nothing of that is remotely how the app works. Every hospitality venue was expected to keep a record of visitors, some used pen and paper, some had QR codes which should have been mandatory imo. This was completely separate to the apps, which can function anywhere in the world because they are just apps. The problem is, the Scottish app wouldn't talk to the English app because they were different technologies. I wouldn't try to find the result of Dundee's game on an app which only covered the bundesliga, would I.
    You have previously posted about £37 billion being wasted on the Test and Trace scheme. Surely the politicians from each country that makes up the United Kingdom should have put their differences apart and worked to have a Test and Trace scheme which was compatible in every country. Nippy is invited to attend the U.K. government Cobra meetings.
    I know about the hospitality industry having use pen and paper to take details of their customers but again sadly there is no laid down set of rules. I have had to give our details to several hospitality venues throughout Scotland.
    At the first one on Islay I had to write my name, address, phone number and email address on a sheet of paper which was attaché to a clip board which was hanging up beside the main counter in the cafe. There were other customers contacts details including phone numbers and email address also written on the same sheet of paper in full view of everyone. I expressed my concerns to the owner and told him that my contact details should placed in a secure container and not be displayed in public view. Someone could take a photograph of these contacts details using a iPhone The owner told me that he had no concerns about his customers personal contact details being on display for anyone to read. I phoned Police Scotland to advise them of my concerns. I will not set foot in that cafe on Islay ever again.
    We stopped at a well known cafe in Tyndrum where I wrote down my contact details on a piece of paper which I pushed through a slit into a secure box. This time I was only asked for my name, address and contact phone number.
    We had a evening meal in a well known restaurant in Broughty Ferry where we were only asked for our name and contact phone number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    at the first one on islay i had to write my name, address, phone number and email address on a sheet of paper which was attaché to a clip board which was hanging up beside the main counter in the cafe. There were other customers contacts details including phone numbers and email address also written on the same sheet of paper in full view of everyone. I expressed my concerns to the owner and told him that my contact details should placed in a secure container and not be displayed in public view. Someone could take a photograph of these contacts details using a iphone the owner told me that he had no concerns about his customers personal contact details being on display for anyone to read. I phoned police scotland to advise them of my concerns. I will not set foot in that cafe on islay ever again.
    Brilliant

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