Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
Yup let down by all 3 players and let down by his HR team and lawyers who should have been all over it! Unless of course it was mel who demanded he be sacked!

You do avoid answering the question as to whether if it had been you sacked, you would have thought it was fair but hey ho! I'm assuming that in those circumstances you would?


I don't get how you can appear to be the man of reason and fairness and think that Keogh has somehow profited from his error of judgement? The club made the error in unfairly dismissing him, they could have applied the same punishment to him as they applied to the other two, plus of course being injured he missed out on his appearance fees, clean sheet bonus, any bonus based on league position etc. All he got was his basic pay. (admittedly a good rate).

The fact that the other two were punished under the criminal justice system is separate surely? There is the criminal act and then there is the deviation from the expected behaviour as employees - in anybody's reasonable opinion, Keogh was clearly treated unfairly compared to the other two.
I’m sorry I’m obviously not making myself clear.

First paragraph...completely agree.

Second paragraph...if I’d made myself unavailable for work by behaving in a way which was totally irresponsible and condoned law breaking...yes I’d expect to have been sacked.

Third paragraph...RK obviously suffered as a result of his injury. Beyond that he seems to have been paid in full, via compensation, by Derby while also earning from MKDons and Huddersfield...not a bad result financially.

Final paragraph...as I understand it, Lawrence and Bennett were fined by the courts, additionally fined six weeks wages by the club, lost their licences and had to do a not insignificant amount of community service. Their fault completely as was the ridicule and abuse that was heaped on them by fans as a result of their actions. In comparison RK has ended up with a £2.3m pay out after initially, again as I recall, suggesting that he felt responsible for the incident but still turning down half pay during his enforced absence. To me that can’t be right.

I’m sure you’re absolutely right as far as the law is concerned.
I’m also sure you’re absolutely right as far as legality and morality having little in common is concerned.
Unfortunately for me I think they should. There are too many current, and much more serious, examples of morality conflicting with legality imo.
As far as employment law is concerned I’m sure you, Adi, AF and RK’s solicitors are 100% correct. As far as morality is concerned, if I were in RK’s position I’d be struggling to sleep at night.