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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjoPie View Post
    Yes it certainly has. The sad thing about Boris and his cronies is that there is absolutely no-one in any other party who is remotely better!!!
    What do you mean by 'better', Banjo? Better at what? Lying? Keeping a happy face while selling snake oil? Here's a short list of one or two 'better' people -
    Burnham
    Starmer
    (Yvette) Cooper
    Bercow
    Milliband
    (Caroline) Lucas
    By 'better' I mean people with integrity who are not afraid to ask the right questions. They are more than remotely better. What is it you think 'Boris and his cronies' are actually good at? Would it be killing people through neglect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    What do you mean by 'better', Banjo? Better at what? Lying? Keeping a happy face while selling snake oil? Here's a short list of one or two 'better' people -
    Burnham
    Starmer
    (Yvette) Cooper
    Bercow
    Milliband
    (Caroline) Lucas
    By 'better' I mean people with integrity who are not afraid to ask the right questions. They are more than remotely better. What is it you think 'Boris and his cronies' are actually good at? Would it be killing people through neglect?
    Boris and his cronies are not good at anything least of all leadership, the serious issue is that there is no credible opposition. A few people mentioned on your list may have better morals but they are not capable either individually or collectively of running or leading a government, now had you put David Milliband on your list, that would have been a different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjoPie View Post
    Boris and his cronies are not good at anything least of all leadership, the serious issue is that there is no credible opposition. A few people mentioned on your list may have better morals but they are not capable either individually or collectively of running or leading a government, now had you put David Milliband on your list, that would have been a different matter.
    How do you know I didn't?
    Also -
    in what sense was Burnham a failed MP? Failed potential leader of Labour, yes, but he actually stood down as MP to
    stand as Mayor. He no longer wished to serve under a leader he didn't support.
    I would also add to my list
    Lindsay Hoyle
    Hilary Benn

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    How do you know I didn't?
    Also -
    in what sense was Burnham a failed MP? Failed potential leader of Labour, yes, but he actually stood down as MP to
    stand as Mayor. He no longer wished to serve under a leader he didn't support.
    I would also add to my list
    Lindsay Hoyle
    Hilary Benn
    If the Government were to say to Burnham that “we are going to give Greater Manchester everything you have asked of us” he would probably find some excuse to refuse it because he would then not be able to criticise them. It doesn’t matter what the Government do or say, he is opposed to it. (Having an opposite opinion for the sake of not wanting to agree is just crap) Surely, there must be some decent politicians in some party or other but I doubt there are many capable of providing the kind of leadership required to organise and run the UK.

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