Sutton Utd

[laddo]

The reason he 'failed' the third time is because he got the sack, MM. Even me being the generous soul that I am that would still have to mark that down as a failure IMHAHO. Not being trusted or deemed competent enough to be allowed to finish a season is 'failure' in itself. There are always 'mitigating circumstances', for every manager at almost every club in the lower divisions, especially if you are looking for a nice easy excuse.

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

Now that's strange if you are a true Notts fan cos as a club and set of supporters we've had more of those than most.

[countygump]

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

[Elite_Pie]

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

Correct. The fact that we've had many managerial failures doesn't make Ardley's reign acceptable. We all know that laddo instantly ridiculed anyone who said that Ardley wasn't the answer. As UTM suggests, he's never had the guts to say "Yeah you were probably right".

[PedroTheFisherman66]

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

Now that's strange if you are a true Notts fan cos as a club and set of supporters we've had more of those than most.

WTF has this paragraph of tripe got to do with Ardley being good or bad ? two things to confirm how good or bad he was are ,
One - Sol Campbell do I need to explain that anymore ?
Two - IB taking the same squad of players and turning them from a dour defensive stumbling stuttering team into an exciting free flowing football out fit to be feared.
I would love it if any of the Ardley fans who says he's a good manager (still) would like to explain that transformation please.