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Thread: Solihull Appoint Ardley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notts78 View Post
    But DavyFacts points 100% of the blame at Ardley. He was backed and backed and backed. It was a perfect environment for Ardley to flourish and he failed keeping us up and the 2 failed promotions since.
    Talking sense like you have simply doesn’t conform to reality or anywhere close to it. Davy says so.
    How Ardley brought the players in was irrelevant, Ardley was still able to make signings in January, other clubs could only dream off, even the Nottingham post said this, so are you going to accuse them of making things up to

    Ardley was crap, in my opinion he is 100% responsible for relegation, its got nothing to do with Hardy the performance on the field, thats Ardley job, at at least the Notts players were being paid.
    When Ardley arrived we were 7 points clear of Macclesfield, in the end we only had to be better than them, i think nearly any other manager would have kept us up.


    He did fail to get us promoted twice, the 1st season it was all excuses for a poor start because of the club going out of business, yet most of the players remained and were training.
    These same people said this year there would be no excuses, yet surprise , surprise, another poor start, and many were still saying he should have remained as manager- delusion to the end, Ardley was finally sacked when automatic was beyond his reach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post

    Ardley was crap, in my opinion he is 100% responsible for relegation, its got nothing to do with Hardy the performance on the field, thats Ardley job, at at least the Notts players were being paid.
    When Ardley arrived we were 7 points clear of Macclesfield, in the end we only had to be better than them, i think nearly any other manager would have kept us up.
    That's an interesting viewpoint "... nearly any other manager would have kept us up". Hmmmmm any other manager , like Harry Kewell for example? Or maybe Kevin Nolan? Would they have kept us both up?

    And who was the person who sacked both of those managers who would have "kept us up"? The chairman at the time Alan Hardy, yet he doesn't even get 1% of the blame in Davy's eyes. All 100% of the blame for relegation goes to the newly appointed Solihull manager.

    Well I guess it's an opinion, not a fact so even if it doesn't "make sense" to many it's still a viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    That's an interesting viewpoint "... nearly any other manager would have kept us up". Hmmmmm any other manager , like Harry Kewell for example? Or maybe Kevin Nolan? Would they have kept us both up?

    And who was the person who sacked both of those managers who would have "kept us up"? The chairman at the time Alan Hardy, yet he doesn't even get 1% of the blame in Davy's eyes. All 100% of the blame for relegation goes to the newly appointed Solihull manager.

    Well I guess it's an opinion, not a fact so even if it doesn't "make sense" to many it's still a viewpoint.
    No i do not blame Hardy. He appointed and paid a manager to do a job, in which that manager NA failed big time. Hindsight is a wonderfull thing

    Well yes definately Nolan, who had already proved he could turn things around when he came in after 10 straight loses, and i think Kewell would have too
    I have said many times, even though its been ignored by the pro Ardley brigade, thats NA record over the first 12 games was worse than Fullartons, its that period that cast us 8 points from safety , who knows maybe even Fullarton would of kept us up, he certainly could have of done no worse

    Here is a more interesting question for you, If IB had been appointed instead of NA, i believe IB would have kept us up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    How Ardley brought the players in was irrelevant, Ardley was still able to make signings in January, other clubs could only dream off, even the Nottingham post said this, so are you going to accuse them of making things up to

    Ardley was crap, in my opinion he is 100% responsible for relegation, its got nothing to do with Hardy the performance on the field, thats Ardley job, at at least the Notts players were being paid.
    When Ardley arrived we were 7 points clear of Macclesfield, in the end we only had to be better than them, i think nearly any other manager would have kept us up.


    He did fail to get us promoted twice, the 1st season it was all excuses for a poor start because of the club going out of business, yet most of the players remained and were training.
    These same people said this year there would be no excuses, yet surprise , surprise, another poor start, and many were still saying he should have remained as manager- delusion to the end, Ardley was finally sacked when automatic was beyond his reach
    You are quoting the Evening Post hahahaha. They get all their news and views off here. **** me they even used one of my quotes.
    At least now I can see where you get your opinion and facts from. Evening Post hahahahaha….

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    Ok so you do not think much of the evening post Huh ? lol. Are you saying they post lies ?? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    No i do not blame Hardy. He appointed and paid a manager to do a job, in which that manager NA failed big time. Hindsight is a wonderfull thing

    Well yes definately Nolan, who had already proved he could turn things around when he came in after 10 straight loses, and i think Kewell would have too
    I have said many times, even though its been ignored by the pro Ardley brigade, thats NA record over the first 12 games was worse than Fullartons, its that period that cast us 8 points from safety , who knows maybe even Fullarton would of kept us up, he certainly could have of done no worse

    Here is a more interesting question for you, If IB had been appointed instead of NA, i believe IB would have kept us up
    So do I. But as if Hardy would have known about IB!!!

    This is where I have a really problem with your viewpoint. Putting the fact that Hardy appointed Ardley who you attribute 100% of the blame for relegation. Ignoring that obvious connection and opportunity to share the blame. You've just said that both Nolan and Kewell would have kept us up that season. Yet both managers were sacked by Hardy, yet Hardy still doesn't get any of the blame?!?! That's rely confusing to me, how can someone so intrinsically linked take no responsibility for the demise of a club to the point of relegation to NL. Can anyone answer that? Can anyone help Davy out?

    What I think is safe to say is anyone who blames any one person for that complete sh!tshow of a season is never going to be able to 'move on' and 'look forward'. They will always be trapped in the past until they learn to share the blame a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    So do I. But as if Hardy would have known about IB!!!

    This is where I have a really problem with your viewpoint. Putting the fact that Hardy appointed Ardley who you attribute 100% of the blame for relegation. Ignoring that obvious connection and opportunity to share the blame. You've just said that both Nolan and Kewell would have kept us up that season. Yet both managers were sacked by Hardy, yet Hardy still doesn't get any of the blame?!?! That's rely confusing to me, how can someone so intrinsically linked take no responsibility for the demise of a club to the point of relegation to NL. Can anyone answer that? Can anyone help Davy out?

    What I think is safe to say is anyone who blames any one person for that complete sh!tshow of a season is never going to be able to 'move on' and 'look forward'. They will always be trapped in the past until they learn to share the blame a little.
    Notts County will never move on, until we are out of this hole of a league
    Hardy job was appointing managers, and making sure they are paid, which they were unlike macclesfield. ( who despite being unpaid, , and 7 points behind us when NA arrived stayed up - this shows NA incompetence, and you can not blame Hardy for that ) . The manager is totally responsible for matters on the field , if this was not the case, why have managers at all, when the chairman could just pick the team

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    Another thing, as well as Hardy continuing to pay players , credit should be given to him, for selling the club to good owners ( Currently)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    Congrats to him. Hopefully he's taken that long awaited break and used it to rebuild his energy and motivation. I hope he gets a very warm reception at Meadow Lane when he returns with them.
    Then sending him and Solihull on their way with a fly in their ear, after an emphatic Notts victory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    Another thing, as well as Hardy continuing to pay players , credit should be given to him, for selling the club to good owners ( Currently)
    Let's put this down as a 'bit of a stretch'.

    But to keep things positive thanks Alan

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