Calvin Miller

[jacobncfc]

Not sure, big decisions like that are usually more nuanced than just raw numbers (and would they be all that different?)

There's locations, personal relationships, bosses, histories with places - things that might factor in.

I was struck by the words Miller used in an interview - he had be brought in by IB and Ross then swiftly dropped (justifiably so, his performances were awful, see NCFCOGs ratings piece). Later he was brought back by IB and he didn't look back, but he said he was 'hurt' by losing his place, and he looked it too, not motivated to do better, but 'hurt'. I guess you never know what goes through a player's head. Even comments on a site like this could prompt a player to say **** 'em.

I think at our level it comes more down to money. Which I have no problem with btw, it’s a short career and the numbers players are earning in the National League are hardly massive, 1/200 quid a week adds up. Obviously stuff like location can factor in as well, but not when choosing between Notts and Chesterfield.

Something like your scenario is possible, but were something like that true then we shouldn’t really be bothered anyway.

My reading of what has happened for us transfer market wise for us so far is that we’ve secured a new contract for someone we know had league offers, and signed someone who had an offer from a promotion rival and likely league offers as well. We’ve also lost two players we’d have liked to have kept, one to a small club but in the division above and one two a direct rival. Suggests to me we have a competitive budget, but are being very deliberate in offering players deals we feel they’re worth, rather than just because it fits within what we can afford.

[SwalePie]

I think at our level it comes more down to money. Which I have no problem with btw, it’s a short career and the numbers players are earning in the National League are hardly massive, 1/200 quid a week adds up. Obviously stuff like location can factor in as well, but not when choosing between Notts and Chesterfield.

Something like your scenario is possible, but were something like that true then we shouldn’t really be bothered anyway.

My reading of what has happened for us transfer market wise for us so far is that we’ve secured a new contract for someone we know had league offers, and signed someone who had an offer from a promotion rival and likely league offers as well. We’ve also lost two players we’d have liked to have kept, one to a small club but in the division above and one two a direct rival. Suggests to me we have a competitive budget, but are being very deliberate in offering players deals we feel they’re worth, rather than just because it fits within what we can afford.

It is a refreshingly professional approach which I fully support.

[the_anticlough]

I think at our level it comes more down to money. Which I have no problem with btw, it’s a short career and the numbers players are earning in the National League are hardly massive, 1/200 quid a week adds up. Obviously stuff like location can factor in as well, but not when choosing between Notts and Chesterfield.

Something like your scenario is possible, but were something like that true then we shouldn’t really be bothered anyway.

My reading of what has happened for us transfer market wise for us so far is that we’ve secured a new contract for someone we know had league offers, and signed someone who had an offer from a promotion rival and likely league offers as well. We’ve also lost two players we’d have liked to have kept, one to a small club but in the division above and one two a direct rival. Suggests to me we have a competitive budget, but are being very deliberate in offering players deals we feel they’re worth, rather than just because it fits within what we can afford.

I hope you're right, no reason to think you aren't.

Money's the main clincher of course, but with Reeves, Ellis and now Miller choosing to walk it's enough to know that, for whatever reasons, we are NOT a place that's so good you really have to be there if you can. Money yes, but you can be forgiven for asking if there are any other common denominators in the decisions to go elsewhere.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

I hope you're right, no reason to think you aren't.

Money's the main clincher of course, but with Reeves, Ellis and now Miller choosing to walk it's enough to know that, for whatever reasons, we are NOT a place that's so good you really have to be there if you can. Money yes, but you can be forgiven for asking if there are any other common denominators in the decisions to go elsewhere.

With the signing of players there's a lot that needs to be factored in especially at this level. I am not overly worried about Reeves, Ellis, and Miller not signing being a reflection of something being wrong with how the club operates, but more about the players own circumstances and the clubs current position in non-league. Reeves was very complementary in his parting message about IB and is coaching methods.

Also we do not know if Ellis was offered a contract?

Rightly or wrongly I've come to the conclusion that Reeves and Ellis may have wanted to play at the highest level possible in an area closer to where they may live and be settled? Reeves has spent the majority of his career in London and has signed for Stevenage and likewise Ellis has been in the North West with Tranmere and has signed for Barrow. They are both 28+ so can't be begrudged wanting to play in the EFL at that age it might be the last chance they get and especially if it's closer to home as well.

With Miller he is far younger, but was never our player, a loan signing who put himself in the shop window. If he was offered a contract then it's doubtful location was a factor as Chesterfield are only up the road, it can't be anything to do with us being in the National League as they are, so it could only be speculated it could be money, length of contract, or something else and he just did not fancy it here, but that shouldn't be seen as something being wrong at the club.