O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[upthemaggies]

A quick google search tells us ‘big science’(whatever that is) is indeed conducting trials into the efficacy of this drug. Who has supposed to have ‘shot it down’?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...239-X/fulltext

Trials can be set up to fail and apparently have been. It has to be administered at the right stage of infection in order to work, for example. Oxford are doing a trial right now and this was reported by the BBC but there are fears this is being done to destroy the drugs' reputation as a cure for Covid once and for all to shut people up from going on about it. Youtube were taking down any video in which anybody said anything positive about it.

[SwalePie]

There's a very interesting article from April on the BMJ site which is worth a read if you're interested in the Ivermectin debate...

"Covid-19: Ivermectin’s politicisation is a warning sign for doctors"

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n747

[SwalePie]

Trials can be set up to fail and apparently have been. It has to be administered at the right stage of infection in order to work, for example. Oxford are doing a trial right now and this was reported by the BBC but there are fears this is being done to destroy the drugs' reputation as a cure for Covid once and for all to shut people up from going on about it. Youtube were taking down any video in which anybody said anything positive about it.

'apparently have been' and 'there are fears' don't fill me with much confidence in the veracity of this info UTM. Also YouTube, I would imagine, have a responsibility to remove fake news regarding the pandemic so unless the information is solid and reliable and from trusted sources they are probably doing the right thing IMHO.

Anyhow, I'm off for more Bovril, which apparently cures everything, although there are fears it might be hard to find in certain football grounds at half time.

[upthemaggies]

'apparently have been' and 'there are fears' don't fill me with much confidence in the veracity of this info UTM.
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That comes from the president of the FLCCC Alliance (Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care) who testified in front of the senate. Youtube took that video down also.

[SwalePie]

That comes from the president of the FLCCC Alliance (Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care) who testified in front of the senate. Youtube took that video down also.

He said the 'apparently' and 'there are fears' you mean?

[upthemaggies]

He said the 'apparently' and 'there are fears' you mean?

I'm not a doctor in the hospital in which he works, nor an expert, nor a scientist, so I take what he says in good faith, hence my use of "apparently". He also expressed concern, on behalf of his members/colleagues that trials are being set up to fail. I couldn't quote him directly as this was an interview I listened to with him, not read, and the interview has, alas, been taken down by youtube.

[SwalePie]

I'm not a doctor in the hospital in which he works, nor an expert, nor a scientist, so I take what he says in good faith, hence my use of "apparently". He also expressed concern, on behalf of his members/colleagues that trials are being set up to fail. I couldn't quote him directly as this was an interview I listened to with him, not read, and the interview has, alas, been taken down by youtube.

I was only meaning did he say those bits or you. I understand now

Interesting Vice article here on the impending Ivermectin info'war'...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3d5gv/ivermectin-covid-treatment-advocates-rogan-weinstein-hecker

[BigFatPie]

I was only meaning did he say those bits or you. I understand now

Interesting Vice article here on the impending Ivermectin info'war'...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3d5gv/ivermectin-covid-treatment-advocates-rogan-weinstein-hecker

Some of those names are very familiar.

Doughty battlers of Big Pharma or Bullsh!t Merchants not just on this but on a wide variety of subjects.

You Decide.

[upthemaggies]

I was only meaning did he say those bits or you. I understand now

Interesting Vice article here on the impending Ivermectin info'war'...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3d5gv/ivermectin-covid-treatment-advocates-rogan-weinstein-hecker

There's very little investigative journalism nowadays. We do have the internet but it's not easy finding voices with genuine credentials amongst the looneys, particularly when the people with the expertise end up being forced (after being banned from mainstream media) onto platforms that tend to be associated with the nutters.

One American journalist did approach youtube recently (last week or so) and asked them about their censoring of actual doctors and scientists and he said that they admitted to being lent on by government officials.

[drillerpie]

Some of those names are very familiar.

Doughty battlers of Big Pharma or Bullsh!t Merchants not just on this but on a wide variety of subjects.

You Decide.

Which names do you have in mind there BFP?