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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    ......and all this because BT asked?

    ''I wonder if God would like to step back in''?
    You have always been able to rely on me to ask the BIG questions Balan.

    Now can you please tell me if Burnley are going to sign anyone of any significance in this current window?

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    You have always been able to rely on me to ask the BIG questions Balan.

    Now can you please tell me if Burnley are going to sign anyone of any significance in this current window?
    Easy one that BT-no, only if we sell someone of significance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Easy one that BT-no, only if we sell someone of significance.
    I hoped for better CiB, but being disappointed is the norm for us Burnley fans.

    Pace stinks.

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    BT: Oh! great wise one, and composer of great stories. I have told you patience! You ask.....

    Now can you please tell me if Burnley are going to sign anyone of any significance in this current window? I feel, NO...... but,who am I to say. We have hope.
    Now in Jerusalem ,on the Temple mount is the 'Wailing wall'. The religious Jews say that the Divine Presence never leaves the wall, as many people come to visit it ,they leave notes to God, requesting help.
    It is such a small request, to ask ,to place a note inside the wall. What you want .

    ''Now can you please tell me if Burnley are going to sign anyone of any significance in this current window''?

    I hope the answer comes quickly to you.

    Prayer at the Western Wall ,or the Wailing wall, notice the notes placed inside cracks in the wall, all asking a request.



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    What I would like to know Balan, this Wailing Wall, does it work ?

    You ask, you get.

    Or not ?

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    The Western Wall is in Old Jerusalem. Jerusalem was originally founded as the City of David in 1010 BCE, but according to archaeological evidence the area may have been settled and inhabited as early as 4500 BCE.

    This ancient city is rich with cultural importance, ancient history, archaeological sites, religious importance and world-renowned artefacts including the Western Wall. Jerusalem is a walled city, but none of the walls of the city get the attention that the Western Wall does. The city is home to over 300 Jewish Synagogues, 33 Mosques and 50 Christian Churches.

    The museums in the area are home to some of the oldest biblical texts in the world. There are over 50 museums in Jerusalem. Many people come specifically to see the Western Wall and take advantage of all the other historically significant places through out Jerusalem.
    The Western Wall is sometimes referred to as the “Wailing Wall” by the Christians or the “Kotel” in Yiddish or the “Buraq Wall” to Islam is an ancient structure; one of the last remaining walls of the exterior structure of an ancient temple in Jerusalem.

    It is considered a holy place by both Jews and Christians and by the millions that visit the wall annually. The original temple that stood on the spot was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. The site is historically relevant. This section of wall is the exterior wall of the temple and not a wall that held up the temple. It encases the Temple Mount and was built by Herod the Great. Herod the Great built a promenade around the Temple Mount, the Western Wall is part of that promenade but is largely all that remains of the ancient structure surrounding the temples.

    The Muslims believe that this is the spot where Mohammad tied his horse before ascending into heaven. His horse was named Buraq hence the name the Buraq wall in Islam.
    Many people that visit the wall leave notes tucked in the stone addressed to God and pray fervently that the temple will return to the spot. There are over one million notes collected annually by keepers of the wall. The notes are collected and buried. It is a moving experience to visit a spot that is so historically significant to one of the largest religious organizations in the wall. Jews come to the site to mourn the loss of the temples. It is a very touching site to see such true believers’ centuries later lament over their lost temples

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    You ask, you get?

    How would a son or daughter turn out if the father gave all the time? I would think a spoilt kid!

    Lets say a good father ,may not give ,but here the action is to teach the child, how can we learn if we do not face hardships?
    If we do not see or feel poverty etc, how can we feel compassion, empathy, the sufferings or misfortunes of others? Life is a pathway, and where we are today is where all the collective teaching we have collected, absorbed on that path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Wanderlust: Correct!

    Unfortunately the human race will need to be replaced by sentient beings before that shangri-la has any chance of coming into existence.

    What we fail to grasp is that in a spiritual sense this Creation is the thought waves of that Supreme Consciousness. The 'Tanach',( in the Old Testament, Deut 6 -4) we read, that concept ''Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one. One is a whole, complete ,entire, a thing that is complete in itself. What we call God, etc. Is the source of everything. So only God exists! Or what ever name you want to call ''it.''
    This Universe ,our world is in constant motion. Or ''apt to change or fluctuate; prone to instability''

    Perhaps this pandemic has come, and is changing the world! On a practical level do we not see China's expansion, its conflict with India ,Taiwan etc? The unstable Middle East, problems all over the world The world is a great stage ,we are mere souls, all on a constant journey which we have come from a state of unqualified Consciousness to a state of qualified Consciousness.
    A question ,''why did ( lets use the term God ) ''why did God create this creation''? I throw this question open to all, please try to answer.
    I do not think anybody can ,at lease no religious person! Please no joke take it as a serious question.
    If you believe in the concept of time then logically there has to be a Creator or at least a creative force that made something out of nothing - like the "virtual particles" that have been observed randomly appearing and disappearing in vacuums and have been proven to have the capacity to become photons in the right circumstances. Not my dodgy hoover - evidence of creation.
    Something must provide the force to make it happen - maybe that's "God"?
    Whether or not the creative force merely set the ball rolling and the rest is chemical/physical reaction and evolution etc or the Creator is truly omnipresent is a matter of debate.
    It's like the adage about a butterfly flaps it's wings in the Amazon forest and the affect is felt all over the world - doesn't mean that the butterfly is present at every knock-on effect throughout the planet. Nor does it mean that the butterfly wasn't created by something else.
    Nobody knows is the reality - and to that extent religion is a very faulty (human) mechanism that merely serves human need.
    All we can do is experience our experience of existence and be grateful rather than wasting our time guessing what creation is and why it exists (at least in our consciousness, which itself may be delusory)
    There's a clear distinction between religion and spirituality but what they have in common is that neither has a clue what it's all about - just hypotheses although they often aren't presented as such.

    Given the above I'm more interested in the preseason. Wanderers are fielding the fringe players and kids against Barrow this afternoon - hopefully God is still a Wanderer

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    "Given the above I'm more interested in the preseason. Wanderers are fielding the fringe players and kids against Barrow this afternoon - hopefully God is still a Wanderer"

    God who created and ran the Turfites tribe, decided to smite down the Wanderers tribe and they have not been quite the same ever since...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    "Given the above I'm more interested in the preseason. Wanderers are fielding the fringe players and kids against Barrow this afternoon - hopefully God is still a Wanderer"

    God who created and ran the Turfites tribe, decided to smite down the Wanderers tribe and they have not been quite the same ever since...
    ...until Sharon of Burnley went into the temple of Macron, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold pasties, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

    Matthew 21: 12 - 13
    And making a whip of cords, she drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And she poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. And she told those who sold the pasties, "Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade".

    — John 2:13–16
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