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Thread: The Corona Virus

  1. #2411
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Where are the bodies?
    Just for balance BT lost a friend this week to
    Covid 56 years young no health problems, not jabbed didn’t believe In it , sadly he passed away after a tricky week at home poorly.

    Suddenly again all the figures stats - lies what ever you want to call them are irrelevant.

    My wife’s just been for Pfizer second jab and was told it’s in effective against Delta variant.

  2. #2412
    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    Just for balance BT lost a friend this week to
    Covid 56 years young no health problems, not jabbed didn’t believe In it , sadly he passed away after a tricky week at home poorly.

    Suddenly again all the figures stats - lies what ever you want to call them are irrelevant.

    My wife’s just been for Pfizer second jab and was told it’s in effective against Delta variant.
    I'm really sorry to hear about your mate army88, if the jabs are ineffective, we will all have to rely on our own individual immune system and hope for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post

    My wife’s just been for Pfizer second jab and was told it’s in effective against Delta variant.
    Who told her that army ? From what I'm reading the different vaccines have varying levels of effectiveness depending on the variant. But nowhere have I read, or even seen it suggested, that Pfizer is ineffective against the Delta variant.

    I'll gladly hold my hand up if I'm wrong, but I would suggest that your wife's informant is talking out of their backside.

  4. #2414
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Who told her that army ? From what I'm reading the different vaccines have varying levels of effectiveness depending on the variant. But nowhere have I read, or even seen it suggested, that Pfizer is ineffective against the Delta variant.

    I'll gladly hold my hand up if I'm wrong, but I would suggest that your wife's informant is talking out of their backside.
    I'm reading across various social media sites that you vaccinated folks are dying because of Covid.

    I'll happily stick with my own uncontaminated immune system, thank you very much.

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    How efficient are these Experimental MRNA Vaccines distributed under emergency use and still under Trial until 2023 +. ?

    according to their "own" data - effectiveness declines over time....and as for Pfizer and BioNtech - Israel health ministry reporting the Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective, Delta variant is currently their dominant strain.


    but then - as with any trial - there is a control group.


    Nurse claims 30% of all vaccinated have had the placebo


    https://twitter.com/Alpha_Mind7/stat...86685611253767


    as for the remainder.





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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I'm reading across various social media sites that you vaccinated folks are dying because of Covid.
    Can't be many, hardly anyone is dying WITH Covid, must be a lot less dying FROM Covid. A lot less of hardly any is few indeed.

  7. #2417
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Can't be many, hardly anyone is dying WITH Covid, must be a lot less dying FROM Covid. A lot less of hardly any is few indeed.
    Rumours are circulating that "Vaccine passports" will soon be mandatory and a return to education and school will mean an October Lockdown is "likely".

  8. #2418
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    I heard rumours that in Israel they are working on a new type of vaccine just for people like BT, it works on the principle of the old Uzi machine gun! In slow motion it goes like, zut, zut, zut, zut, zut, it kills all those nasty buggers which he could have caught, but hide in his private parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Rumours are circulating that "Vaccine passports" will soon be mandatory and a return to education and school will mean an October Lockdown is "likely".
    Latest figures from the PHE Technical Briefing No20 show that the vaccines have a 17% effectiveness against infection and a 77% effectiveness against death. It also shows that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the virus as un-vaccinated people.

    "The researchers found that samples from vaccinated and unvaccinated infected people had similar average cycle threshold (Ct) values, meaning they had similar viral loads, suggesting a comparable level of infectiousness."

    So vaccines do a good job in preventing the virus from killing you, but not as good as originally claimed, 77% down from 95% effective, not much use at preventing infection, it will only prevent infection in 17% of cases, and will not stop any of the 83% who do catch it infecting someone else.

    If the vaccines don't stop infection, only 17% effective, and don't prevent the spread of the virus, the case for vaccine passports is completely blown out of the water by their own figures. Will this make any difference to their plans ? Of course not, they'll go ahead anyway, the introduction vaccine passports has nothing to do with fighting the virus, it has another aim altogether.

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    "Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, said: "Having a vaccine is one of the most important things you will ever be asked to do – get it to protect your loved ones and to make sure you can return to creating those special moments."

    The Health Secretary is a liar, PHE stats show that most vaccinated people can still be infected, and those that are will infect others as often as the un-vaccinated. Being vaccinated will not protect your loved ones, only yourself. All those vaxxed people going clubbing and to football grounds, thinking they're safe, none of their vaxxed chums can infect them. Mugs, oh yes they can.

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