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    It's a lesson for Israel balan, not that they need to learn it, they understand it very well, never to take a backward step when dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or Syria.

    I can't help smiling though, every day for four years I heard on the BBC, read in the Grauniad, from Labour and LibDem politicians, often Tories as well, and on every social media platform, chat show hosts, Lefty comedians, even some posters on this msgboard, how Donald Trump was making a laughing stock of America.

    Aye, sure he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    It's a lesson for Israel balan, not that they need to learn it, they understand it very well, never to take a backward step when dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or Syria.

    I can't help smiling though, every day for four years I heard on the BBC, read in the Grauniad, from Labour and LibDem politicians, often Tories as well, and on every social media platform, chat show hosts, Lefty comedians, even some posters on this msgboard, how Donald Trump was making a laughing stock of America.

    Aye, sure he was.
    They all either work for or are owned by the cabal and therefore have to push the agenda otherwise their celebrity status and enormous wealth may just disappear.Anybody that exposes the cabal or their agenda usually ends up dead or if they are lucky just redundant.
    Can you imagine the circus if this catastrophe happened when Trump was President.Sleep Joe gets to read a statement then quickly waltz off to get his nappy changed and put back to bed-the hypocrisy in America is going to cause a Civil War which was the intention from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    It's a lesson for Israel balan, not that they need to learn it, they understand it very well, never to take a backward step when dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or Syria.

    I can't help smiling though, every day for four years I heard on the BBC, read in the Grauniad, from Labour and LibDem politicians, often Tories as well, and on every social media platform, chat show hosts, Lefty comedians, even some posters on this msgboard, how Donald Trump was making a laughing stock of America.

    Aye, sure he was.
    The withdrawal was Trump's election promise, policy and signature on the withdrawal agreement - and it was backed by 75% of Americans.

    Biden enacted that policy and TBH if the intelligence had been any good they'd have realised that a strategic force would be required for many years to come.

    None of the Republicans are complaining about withdrawing - after all it was their policy - but are having a go at Biden for the way in which it happened, probably because they are freaked out by the speed with which the Taliban took back the country.

    Fact is it was Trump who signed the agreement for withdrawal of US troops AND set the deadline of May 1st - so as the Biden camp are now pointing out, their hands were tied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust View Post
    The withdrawal was Trump's election promise, policy and signature on the withdrawal agreement - and it was backed by 75% of Americans.

    Biden enacted that policy and TBH if the intelligence had been any good they'd have realised that a strategic force would be required for many years to come.

    None of the Republicans are complaining about withdrawing - after all it was their policy - but are having a go at Biden for the way in which it happened, probably because they are freaked out by the speed with which the Taliban took back the country.

    Fact is it was Trump who signed the agreement for withdrawal of US troops AND set the deadline of May 1st - so as the Biden camp are now pointing out, their hands were tied.
    The Trump agreement stated that the Taliban had to work together with the then present government.If they did this under Trump he would have bombed them back to the middle ages.They saw Biden as weak and exploited the situation.He was told in early July by intel that the Taliban could quickly overrun the country and then lied that he never received that information.He is a career politician and liar full stop and always has been even from when he was at college.His record speaks for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    The Trump agreement stated that the Taliban had to work together with the then present government.If they did this under Trump he would have bombed them back to the middle ages.They saw Biden as weak and exploited the situation.He was told in early July by intel that the Taliban could quickly overrun the country and then lied that he never received that information.He is a career politician and liar full stop and always has been even from when he was at college.His record speaks for itself.
    Whatever you think about Biden it was Trump who wilfully ignored the advisers, ploughed on with withdrawal and refused to co-ordinate activities or work with the incoming Biden administration to get to grips with the issue. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshSMrRBvOo

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust View Post
    Whatever you think about Biden it was Trump who wilfully ignored the advisers, ploughed on with withdrawal and refused to co-ordinate activities or work with the incoming Biden administration to get to grips with the issue. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshSMrRBvOo
    Sorry Wander CNBC are not impartial.They are part of the Biden/Democrat protection racket as is 99% of the MSN also owned by the same cabal.I prefer the following as a true description of the Afghanistan debacle:-

    https://www.facebook.com/74879521551...30134485524374
    Last edited by ClaretinBudapest; 17-08-2021 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Sorry Wander CNBC are not impartial.They are part of the Biden/Democrat protection racket as is 99% of the MSN also owned by the same cabal.I prefer the following as a true description of the Afghanistan debacle:-

    https://www.facebook.com/74879521551...30134485524374
    They might be impartial although they're not quite Fox News, but Trump's own Chief of Staff made the announcement and it is a fact that withdrawal was Trump's baby, Trump's negotiation, Trump's deadline and Trump's signature on the agreement - which makes CNBC's alleged political bias irrelevant.

    Plus they are answerable to the law - unlike the contextless ramblings of an idiot on Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust View Post
    The withdrawal was Trump's election promise, policy and signature on the withdrawal agreement - and it was backed by 75% of Americans.

    Biden enacted that policy and TBH if the intelligence had been any good they'd have realised that a strategic force would be required for many years to come.

    None of the Republicans are complaining about withdrawing - after all it was their policy - but are having a go at Biden for the way in which it happened, probably because they are freaked out by the speed with which the Taliban took back the country.

    Fact is it was Trump who signed the agreement for withdrawal of US troops AND set the deadline of May 1st - so as the Biden camp are now pointing out, their hands were tied.
    Good try Lusty but POTUS has fecked up big style, even the Donald is laughing at him. What a fecking to$$er. See the link on Post 25 for Sleepy Joe telling all the world that what's happening right now couldn't possibly happen. The man's a clown Lusty, out of his depth, why are you a fanboy, can't you see he hasn't a fecking clue ?

    Could it be you're still suffering from TDS, it does take some getting over I believe. Bit like Long Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Good try Lusty but POTUS has fecked up big style, even the Donald is laughing at him. What a fecking to$$er. See the link on Post 25 for Sleepy Joe telling all the world that what's happening right now couldn't possibly happen. The man's a clown Lusty, out of his depth, why are you a fanboy, can't you see he hasn't a fecking clue ?

    Could it be you're still suffering from TDS, it does take some getting over I believe. Bit like Long Covid.
    I'm no fan of Biden other than he's less of a cock than Trumpton who really is a world class ****er.
    Biden like a lot of Irish Americans, doesn't like England very much so we're no more likely to get a decent trade deal out of him than the bleach swigging dough boy.
    Somebody should tell Blojo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust View Post
    I'm no fan of Biden other than he's less of a cock than Trumpton who really is a world class ****er.
    Biden like a lot of Irish Americans, doesn't like England very much so we're no more likely to get a decent trade deal out of him than the bleach swigging dough boy.
    Somebody should tell Blojo.
    TDS Lusty, it'll wear off eventually, I think.

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