Afghanistan - why did we bother?

[ClaretinBudapest]

It's a lesson for Israel balan, not that they need to learn it, they understand it very well, never to take a backward step when dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or Syria.

I can't help smiling though, every day for four years I heard on the BBC, read in the Grauniad, from Labour and LibDem politicians, often Tories as well, and on every social media platform, chat show hosts, Lefty comedians, even some posters on this msgboard, how Donald Trump was making a laughing stock of America.

Aye, sure he was.

They all either work for or are owned by the cabal and therefore have to push the agenda otherwise their celebrity status and enormous wealth may just disappear.Anybody that exposes the cabal or their agenda usually ends up dead or if they are lucky just redundant.
Can you imagine the circus if this catastrophe happened when Trump was President.Sleep Joe gets to read a statement then quickly waltz off to get his nappy changed and put back to bed-the hypocrisy in America is going to cause a Civil War which was the intention from the start.

[Balanbam00]

Yes, here we understand it very well just who these 'hardliners' are.

We can notice that some philosophies have taught their own religious or caste communities, “The members of this religions or this caste's, are Gods favourite children – all others are cursed and unwanted.” Due to this defective teaching and philosophy the people of one community have even considered the destruction of the members of another community as an act of virtue, and covered the stony altar of human society with the blood of innocent people."

Therefore due to their outlook or gut-feeling, human groups can destroy, enslave, attack, and kill one another. The whole concept of jihad is based on one's social outlook. Jihad really means struggle, it means the struggle or fight between the unit mind and the 'Greater Mind', or simply God. But Muslim's change it into ''a holy war fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to Islam. That is their motivating factor. They are internally convinced of the need to destroy in the name of their religion, regardless of any laws or legalities that state otherwise. That gives rise to various crimes such as car bombings, vicious attacks, militant training camps, and suicide bombers etc, that we see today. And we should always remember that the gut-feeling of any particular person is formed by what is imposed in their mind (a reaction in its potential form, as action - reaction), that is, how they were affected and indoctrinated by the region. Gut-feeling has nothing to do with spiritual intuition, or coming directly from God etc. Gut-feeling is a worldly occurrence and varies from person to person.

[wanderlust]

It's a lesson for Israel balan, not that they need to learn it, they understand it very well, never to take a backward step when dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or Syria.

I can't help smiling though, every day for four years I heard on the BBC, read in the Grauniad, from Labour and LibDem politicians, often Tories as well, and on every social media platform, chat show hosts, Lefty comedians, even some posters on this msgboard, how Donald Trump was making a laughing stock of America.

Aye, sure he was.

The withdrawal was Trump's election promise, policy and signature on the withdrawal agreement - and it was backed by 75% of Americans.

Biden enacted that policy and TBH if the intelligence had been any good they'd have realised that a strategic force would be required for many years to come.

None of the Republicans are complaining about withdrawing - after all it was their policy - but are having a go at Biden for the way in which it happened, probably because they are freaked out by the speed with which the Taliban took back the country.

Fact is it was Trump who signed the agreement for withdrawal of US troops AND set the deadline of May 1st - so as the Biden camp are now pointing out, their hands were tied.

[ClaretinBudapest]

The withdrawal was Trump's election promise, policy and signature on the withdrawal agreement - and it was backed by 75% of Americans.

Biden enacted that policy and TBH if the intelligence had been any good they'd have realised that a strategic force would be required for many years to come.

None of the Republicans are complaining about withdrawing - after all it was their policy - but are having a go at Biden for the way in which it happened, probably because they are freaked out by the speed with which the Taliban took back the country.

Fact is it was Trump who signed the agreement for withdrawal of US troops AND set the deadline of May 1st - so as the Biden camp are now pointing out, their hands were tied.

The Trump agreement stated that the Taliban had to work together with the then present government.If they did this under Trump he would have bombed them back to the middle ages.They saw Biden as weak and exploited the situation.He was told in early July by intel that the Taliban could quickly overrun the country and then lied that he never received that information.He is a career politician and liar full stop and always has been even from when he was at college.His record speaks for itself.

[wanderlust]

The Trump agreement stated that the Taliban had to work together with the then present government.If they did this under Trump he would have bombed them back to the middle ages.They saw Biden as weak and exploited the situation.He was told in early July by intel that the Taliban could quickly overrun the country and then lied that he never received that information.He is a career politician and liar full stop and always has been even from when he was at college.His record speaks for itself.

Whatever you think about Biden it was Trump who wilfully ignored the advisers, ploughed on with withdrawal and refused to co-ordinate activities or work with the incoming Biden administration to get to grips with the issue. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshSMrRBvOo

[ClaretinBudapest]

Whatever you think about Biden it was Trump who wilfully ignored the advisers, ploughed on with withdrawal and refused to co-ordinate activities or work with the incoming Biden administration to get to grips with the issue. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshSMrRBvOo

Sorry Wander CNBC are not impartial.They are part of the Biden/Democrat protection racket as is 99% of the MSN also owned by the same cabal.I prefer the following as a true description of the Afghanistan debacle:-

https://www.facebook.com/74879521551...30134485524374

[Supersub6]

Written by two US ex-participants ------who can argue against what they have said?

http://www.combatflipflops.com/blogs...ten-in-taliban

[wanderlust]

Sorry Wander CNBC are not impartial.They are part of the Biden/Democrat protection racket as is 99% of the MSN also owned by the same cabal.I prefer the following as a true description of the Afghanistan debacle:-

https://www.facebook.com/74879521551...30134485524374

They might be impartial although they're not quite Fox News, but Trump's own Chief of Staff made the announcement and it is a fact that withdrawal was Trump's baby, Trump's negotiation, Trump's deadline and Trump's signature on the agreement - which makes CNBC's alleged political bias irrelevant.

Plus they are answerable to the law - unlike the contextless ramblings of an idiot on Facebook.

[ClaretinBudapest]

Written by two US ex-participants ------who can argue against what they have said?

http://www.combatflipflops.com/blogs...ten-in-taliban

Nice one Sub.

[Balanbam00]

Just a wee bit strange the title is, 'Written in Taliban'? Pashto and Dari are the official languages of Afghanistan.