Kabul Airport

[baggieal]

I fear for our troops if this deadline passes so hope there’s a contingency plan. Already Biden appears to be unable to make huge decisive decisions and what person could at that age!

Totally agree all those Afghans who helped the U.K. ie interpreters, intelligence etc should be airlifted out of there. Even at the height of U.K. troops being over there the numbers did not exceed 10,000. So there’s been almost 2,000 airlifted - that’s a lot of locals who helped our forces ( around 20% ) and we are talking about taking 20,000. Where does this number come from? Again - all those who helped and who could be in danger should be rescued but where do we stop? Do we take out most in Kabul - many in villages where persecution still appears to be happening?

After we take out all those who helped us and rightly so - do we give priority to Afghans in dinghies over those from Somalia and other war torn countries? Obviously in an ideal world everybody should be helped but it’s not an ideal world.

When many of these Afghans arrive who helped us they should be given every opportunity. I hope too these opportunities extend to thousands of our homeless who want to help themselves but can’t! Not every homeless person is a druggie or drunk as I have seen first hand and helped - many are lovely people crying out for help but nobody listens!

[mickd1961]

We didn’t invade Somalia and the like......our priority has to be the Afghans


Biden is a lamentable president, a bumbling oaf, a senile old fool at the head of the country that instigated this war.


Rarely at any job have I seen a person as out of depth as what Biden is.

[Leicesterbaggie]

What I can't get my head around is the fact that out of approx. 320 million people in the USA they end up having to choose between a moron like Trump and an old man in Biden. Neither of them has anywhere near the capabilities to lead one of the world's major powers. Sadly this is the world that we live in today.

[westcountryvillain]

Agree entirely LB and the yanks turn out in their millions to vote for them too - madness.

[baggieal]

We didn’t invade Somalia and the like......our priority has to be the Afghans


Biden is a lamentable president, a bumbling oaf, a senile old fool at the head of the country that instigated this war.


Rarely at any job have I seen a person as out of depth as what Biden is.

I agree Mick 100% but I thought we were helping those who helped us hence the puzzle of 20,000. I bet the whole of the Afghans would want to be airlifted given the chance but where do we stop? Are the 20,000 those who helped us or those vulnerable too? Surely those who are vulnerable would be every woman and every child in the country so where do we stop? Presume every EU country will take the same share too or be made to do so with their little EU rules and regulations.

In future where atrocities take place or a country becomes a breeding ground for terrorists - do we simply ignore this? I agree with many who say we can’t police the world but nobody seems to answer that particular question! It’s a tough one!

[baggieal]

What I can't get my head around is the fact that out of approx. 320 million people in the USA they end up having to choose between a moron like Trump and an old man in Biden. Neither of them has anywhere near the capabilities to lead one of the world's major powers. Sadly this is the world that we live in today.

Totally agree LB. I wouldn’t bet on the moron coming back into power again as already the pro moron banners are gathering momentum! Biden should retire and let Harris take over - she’s one intelligent cookie and would be great

[baggieal]

Breaking News

Person who is considered a security risk airlifted out of Kabul and been detained in Birmingham! Marvellous!

Are we that stupid not to think the Taliban would not forge documents to get people in to be seeds!

Focus on those local people who are known to us and who helped our forces! We can’t even help our homelessness let along every single vulnerable people everywhere else in the world!

[WBA123]

I fear for our troops if this deadline passes so hope there’s a contingency plan. Already Biden appears to be unable to make huge decisive decisions and what person could at that age!

Totally agree all those Afghans who helped the U.K. ie interpreters, intelligence etc should be airlifted out of there. Even at the height of U.K. troops being over there the numbers did not exceed 10,000. So there’s been almost 2,000 airlifted - that’s a lot of locals who helped our forces ( around 20% ) and we are talking about taking 20,000. Where does this number come from? Again - all those who helped and who could be in danger should be rescued but where do we stop? Do we take out most in Kabul - many in villages where persecution still appears to be happening?

After we take out all those who helped us and rightly so - do we give priority to Afghans in dinghies over those from Somalia and other war torn countries? Obviously in an ideal world everybody should be helped but it’s not an ideal world.

When many of these Afghans arrive who helped us they should be given every opportunity. I hope too these opportunities extend to thousands of our homeless who want to help themselves but can’t! Not every homeless person is a druggie or drunk as I have seen first hand and helped - many are lovely people crying out for help but nobody listens!

Lets say 10,000 Afghan people did help the UK, they will have wives, children & family members. They won't be able to come on their own, which is why 20,000 is probably not enough. Another way to look at it is this, there are 44,000 towns in the UK. We are talking about 1 extra person for every 2 towns in the UK.

I also can't get my head around the comparison between immigration and the homeless. The homeless being homeless is not the fault or responsibility of immigrants or Afghans. It is the fault and responsibility of our Government. This comparison happens because certain types of media and Govt use this to deflect attention away from their failings.

Please let's not get too deep into Brexit, but its a great example of how this happens. For instance, I heard one woman say on the radio that they voted for it because she couldn't get a quick appointment with their local GP, and they thought all of the appointments were being taken up by 'foreigners'. Its a classic play by those in power to shift blame away from themselves onto others, ideally a more marginalised group of society. The blame that person gave was to the 'foreigners' - and not the Government or Local Authority for their failed healthcare service she experienced. Its exactly what those in power want her to do. And why she voted the way she did.

[WBA123]

Breaking News

Person who is considered a security risk airlifted out of Kabul and been detained in Birmingham! Marvellous!

Are we that stupid not to think the Taliban would not forge documents to get people in to be seeds!

Focus on those local people who are known to us and who helped our forces! We can’t even help our homelessness let along every single vulnerable people everywhere else in the world!

The Taliban, whilst are horrendous to live under, are not really a threat to us. They want to rule Afghanistan and they know if terror groups are allowed to exist there then its possible the US and allies could invade again. So the deal they have cut with the west is not to allow terror groups to operate in Afghanistan in exchange for troop withdrawal.

There is a possibility ISIS could have infiltrated it, but its not in the Taliban's interests for ISIS to do that. And the Taliban and ISIS are very separate groups.

[Albionic68]

.....the Taliban and ISIS are very separate groups.

Bit of an understatement given they can't stand each other. In fairness I can see the dislike from both sides of the coin.