Keeper

[pass_and_move]

Just watched a film called 'the Keeper' on BBC2. It's about Bert Trautman, the famous Man City goalie of the 1950s and his struggles to be accepted in British society as he was a German pow. Great watch but tainted by tragedy. You can get it on catch up TV

Then switched ova to BBC 1 and watched Educating Rita with the lovely Julie Walters. A gret neets tele a dare say

[Redrascal]

Just watched a film called 'the Keeper' on BBC2. It's about Bert Trautman, the famous Man City goalie of the 1950s and his struggles to be accepted in British society as he was a German pow. Great watch but tainted by tragedy. You can get it on catch up TV

Then switched ova to BBC 1 and watched Educating Rita with the lovely Julie Walters. A gret neets tele a dare say

Crackers how hard people make other peoples lives,ant seen film but can imagine,fans no doubt having a pop cos he wa german,some fans being racist,dont think they were all racist just having a pop,which is very wrong,older people on ere may av seen gone with the wind,if you have,black people in that film played a massive part. Black actors out of that film werent allowed to go to the opening of that film,show that film through every school,its watchable,then let the kids know how cissy couldnt go to the big opening,shocked me,so unfair,taking knee makes you think,but to understand you av to feel it.i knew about that film yrs back,iif youve seen it then you understand.i had nothin to do wi war but can say wen i went on holiday in 80s i always associated germans with the war,cant say i blamed them at that time but things might av been different if id av lost mi grandad,been on one tonight me,why is this world so tough?you deffo get wiser the older you get.

[Fileytyke]

If you ask some of the elder generation who lived through the 2nd World War and lost loved ones who were killed in action by the Germans or died through being bombed by the Germans maybe you would understand the hatred there was against the Germans and Japanese.It was the same in Germany and Japan whose loved ones were killed by the British and Americans,they hated us and the Yanks.I lived through the war and went to school during it and remember going down the air raid shelters at home and at school.I also lost two uncles who were killed in action against the Germans,but that was how people felt on both sides.
The worst memories about the war was on Christmas Day 1944,I had heard about this wonderful man called Father Christmas who delivered presents to all the boys and girls.During the war everything went into the war effort so no toys were made,if you were lucky to have a Dad who was a bit handy you got home made toys,my poor old Dad couldn’t knock a nail in straight so I was unlucky.My Mother had died in 1943 so us kids had to go and live with Grandma because our Dad was working down the pit and couldn’t look after us.On that Christmas morning I came down the stairs expecting to see lots of presents from Father Christmas but there was nothing there.I asked my Grandma if he had been and her answer was “He was coming and had lots of presents for you but do you know what happened?” Then she said “Them bloody Germans shot him down over the North Sea but he bailed out and with a bit of luck he will get through next year.Even us kids hated the Germans for shooting down Father Christmas.Us British didn’t shoot the German Father Christmas down but I think the German kids still hated the English.

[Redrascal]

If you ask some of the elder generation who lived through the 2nd World War and lost loved ones who were killed in action by the Germans or died through being bombed by the Germans maybe you would understand the hatred there was against the Germans and Japanese.It was the same in Germany and Japan whose loved ones were killed by the British and Americans,they hated us and the Yanks.I lived through the war and went to school during it and remember going down the air raid shelters at home and at school.I also lost two uncles who were killed in action against the Germans,but that was how people felt on both sides.
The worst memories about the war was on Christmas Day 1944,I had heard about this wonderful man called Father Christmas who delivered presents to all the boys and girls.During the war everything went into the war effort so no toys were made,if you were lucky to have a Dad who was a bit handy you got home made toys,my poor old Dad couldn’t knock a nail in straight so I was unlucky.My Mother had died in 1943 so us kids had to go and live with Grandma because our Dad was working down the pit and couldn’t look after us.On that Christmas morning I came down the stairs expecting to see lots of presents from Father Christmas but there was nothing there.I asked my Grandma if he had been and her answer was “He was coming and had lots of presents for you but do you know what happened?” Then she said “Them bloody Germans shot him down over the North Sea but he bailed out and with a bit of luck he will get through next year.Even us kids hated the Germans for shooting down Father Christmas.Us British didn’t shoot the German Father Christmas down but I think the German kids still hated the English.

Must av been scary mate living through war,did you ever see ought, am not trying to remind you of any bad times, interested, always lvd talking to older boys back in boozer wen i wa a young un.ought on radio,see any german planes,were our planes always flying overhead, sorry about the family you lost.

[pass_and_move]

If you ask some of the elder generation who lived through the 2nd World War and lost loved ones who were killed in action by the Germans or died through being bombed by the Germans maybe you would understand the hatred there was against the Germans and Japanese.It was the same in Germany and Japan whose loved ones were killed by the British and Americans,they hated us and the Yanks.I lived through the war and went to school during it and remember going down the air raid shelters at home and at school.I also lost two uncles who were killed in action against the Germans,but that was how people felt on both sides.
The worst memories about the war was on Christmas Day 1944,I had heard about this wonderful man called Father Christmas who delivered presents to all the boys and girls.During the war everything went into the war effort so no toys were made,if you were lucky to have a Dad who was a bit handy you got home made toys,my poor old Dad couldn’t knock a nail in straight so I was unlucky.My Mother had died in 1943 so us kids had to go and live with Grandma because our Dad was working down the pit and couldn’t look after us.On that Christmas morning I came down the stairs expecting to see lots of presents from Father Christmas but there was nothing there.I asked my Grandma if he had been and her answer was “He was coming and had lots of presents for you but do you know what happened?” Then she said “Them bloody Germans shot him down over the North Sea but he bailed out and with a bit of luck he will get through next year.Even us kids hated the Germans for shooting down Father Christmas.Us British didn’t shoot the German Father Christmas down but I think the German kids still hated the English.

Good of you to share your thoughts and experiences Filey. My grandparents were Polish and Czech. Split from their families (who they never saw again) by the Germans during the war and came over here to get work. My Czech grandfather was a miner, hence why he came to Barnsley. Horrible times for almost everyone. I sometimes wonder how they coped because they were young, had no family to help, couldn’t speak English initially and had little choice but to get on with it and integrate into their new surroundings.

He (my grandfather) died in 1985 when I was an infant. I vaguely remember him but my Grandmother lasted many years longer and told me many stories of war-time but I still can't fully understand the heartbreak and hardships people suffered. We are very fortunate and I realise that. Sometimes when people go on about the Covid pandemic being in lockdown etc, I think it must be nothing to how things were in the war.

My grandfather was a football nut and went to Oakwell regularly until he was too ill to do so. So then supporting the reds was passed down the family as it tends to be.

Keep well Mr Filey and all the best

[Redrascal]

Watched that band of brothers, i no they were frm usa, but must av been same for everyone,digging foxholes,ready for any bombings,you had to be young to av the bottle never mind having to put up wi freezing winters,lack of equipment,missing your family,terrible,suppose it wasnt just about staying positive,survival was key,make no wonder people were closer,for all bad being one of the lads looking up to other lads,getting on in such bad times,most crapping themselves but being a man and not showing it,wow,bet there were some scary laughs.then theres loss,doesnt matter how good you were,foxhole in wrong place,dead.losing ya mates,fighting one on one wi a knife to death.dont know your born,old sayin that springs to mind.

[Barnsley Chop]

Filey and Pass thanks for sharing your experiences, truly heart warming.

To Rascal a young un on this forum compared to me and others your comments are appreciated.

[Jules88]

Humbled. When you’ve listened to some of the sh!ye on Jeremy vine, and the whining over an Apaca, which creates more headlines than ever created in a war in 1939-40 you KNOW that this world is just Finished.
Football.. ..£100m for a player!

The whining of a footballer isn’t worth reading, compared to these heroes.