Derby tickets

[the_arab]

we have a massive issue right now with football in general where too many people are living in the past... the core football values of a club are no longer embedded in the community, yes most of the fans still feel like it is, but its not ... it is now a business, that is what we currently are to our owners and they will do whatever is necessary at some point to make money. If the owners fail (most will in Scotland) the fans willing to back whatever will eventually find out their blind faith meant nothing. I totally get that people just want to support the club, every club needs those fans but if everyone continues to accept everything the businessmen want then eventually you will find very little remains of the club you originally started supporting

Whether you like it or not you support a business, that business bought the rights to our badge. They can do whatever they want with it

[TerryTheTerror]

Whether you like it or not you support a business, that business bought the rights to our badge. They can do whatever they want with it

Indeed and short of buying the current owners out (highly unlikely) it's pretty hard to see what us fans can do about it.

[Shedboy1971]

Football in general is dead to me and has been for a while. I dont watch it - feel extremely detached from the national teams, so called big leagues, the ronaldos of this world etc etc etc. I literally watch united for what i can only describe as its in my blood. I dont read about any other teams just us - i watch no highlights just us and ive been known to laugh more than i care at what i am seeing in last few years. As for the OF, england and world football - hope they all implode financially but i cant see it.

[the_arab]

Indeed and short of buying the current owners out (highly unlikely) it's pretty hard to see what us fans can do about it.

the only thing you can do which is let them know when they have lost the balance between their financial plans and satisfying its"customer" base. My work does what we call churn analyses(although not my main area), when numbers drop you better believe the people at the top start panicking. But when numbers are going up they honestly do not care as they think everyone is happy. Business men dont care about loyalty, the ogrens couldnt care less about you or I, They would rather have 5k tourists paying 100 quid a ticket than 5k locals paying 20... this is what you are seeing now in the EPL.

If fans rejected the 30 quid ticket and it meant they brung in less than they would have at 25, they absolutely would have a meeting on that and alter it as that is someones job to balance it.

[the_arab]

Football in general is dead to me and has been for a while. I dont watch it - feel extremely detached from the national teams, so called big leagues, the ronaldos of this world etc etc etc. I literally watch united for what i can only describe as its in my blood. I dont read about any other teams just us - i watch no highlights just us and ive been known to laugh more than i care at what i am seeing in last few years. As for the OF, england and world football - hope they all implode financially but i cant see it.

tbh i agree, i think this is why i am so angry about us right now as im starting to watch all football less and less. Even the so called big teams packed with super stars are boring to watch. Man City are an absolute snooze fest and every manager now wants to look at whats trendy (what is pep doing) and force teams to play it with very little ability to make it work. This is prob why i am struggling with the whole value thing, since im paying out money to fall asleep and i could just get sleeping pills for cheaper

[Whitfieldarab]

As I've said I think it was pretty clear the prices we going to be like this for a category A match. As I said earlier I don't think they should have done the categories this season given the price hike they were having to put in the season tickets to make up for the covid commitments made last season.

I respect anyone's right to spend their hard earned on wherever they feel is right. 👍

The next category A home game after the FUN must be Celtic. Wonder how many £30 tickets we'll sell for that one? This game will be on tv and more than likely on a Sunday so the home end will look 5hite on tv.

At least when the Mhinks come and probably outnumber us they won't be singing their usual bile!no they'll be too busy singing " what a 5hitey home support "

[the_arab]

what the club should really be doing is using the current ST holders as their cohort, not looking at whether our numbers go up next year but looking at how many of those who had one this season renews next and that would give them some form of basis for value (number will always be less than 100%)

They should also take those same customers and year on year see what else they buy, ie how much do they then spend in the shop, is that going up or down when the ticket prices move etc? This will tell them how they are doing with the core support.

It would however get trumped if gate fans were rising etc

TBH in all likelyhood we prob dont do that, i doubt we have the inhouse team to do that but the big teams will be doing it.

[Whitfieldarab]

Football in general is dead to me and has been for a while. I dont watch it - feel extremely detached from the national teams, so called big leagues, the ronaldos of this world etc etc etc. I literally watch united for what i can only describe as its in my blood. I dont read about any other teams just us - i watch no highlights just us and ive been known to laugh more than i care at what i am seeing in last few years. As for the OF, england and world football - hope they all implode financially but i cant see it.

I hardly watch football on TV, haven't for the last few seasons. Man Utd v Chelsea or Man City v Liverpool doesn't interest me in the slightest. I watched Scotland last night and enjoyed the game but I didn't watch them on Saturday as I had the boxing on all night.

The St Mirren game on Saturday will be my 1st game back since the pandemic started and I cannot wait.

[Craigbrew]

Just passed denna dump, must been least 100 in queue , must be for tickets for derby game, i wont be going they scunnered me, sick seen crap football, i could not give toss what league were in , all i want to enjoy football again, and right now as few said it even puts you of big games in english premier now.

[JamesMcClean]

Wow, this escalated quickly.

Didn’t say the price for the Derby is right - £27-£28 max would be better with different prices between top and bottom tiers. Didn’t say I don’t understand why people aren’t going - if it’s too much and it’s unaffordable but would otherwise love to have gone, then family and other more important things take priority, of course they do. Didn’t say the Club aren’t getting out of touch a wee bit- in a previous post I highlighted several areas of concern culminating in this ticket debacle which is not exactly painting them in a good light currently and making them appear disenfranchised currently.

However, you only need to look back a few years to under the previous owner to see where we were and where we were going. Fan power helped no end in pressurising him out and given where we were to where we are now, you can hardly say the Club haven’t progressed generally under the Ogrens. BUT the big thing that helped the Club remain relevant was we stood up to the task, kept our attendances up, kept our pride and in no end, greatly assisted us getting back to where we should never have left. There was some right keech served up 2015-2019 and if we’d all chucked it and collectively failed to turn up, then quite simply we would not have had a Dundee United Football Club to support.

Currently are we where we want to be? No. Are we better than we were under Ray and Csaba? Big yes.

I watched some right scheite post Tommy McLean through to Sir Craig and not once did I go up expecting ‘ value for money’. I went up to support my team get results. Even though they were pretty far and few. When things got better and we won the Scottish Cup, I did look back on pride that we’d gone through some utter scheite but this was the pay off and I’m sure there were many who felt just like me.

You only have to look up the road to see how a so called ‘big Club’ can wither on the vine and deteriorate rapidly if fans just start to ‘chuck it’ because ‘it’s no good enough’. If you don’t keep supporting, how can it ever then improve?

So, rightly highlight the too high prices. If it’s too much and unaffordable quite rightly prioritise more important things. Complain to the Club. Engage with DUSF for instance and highlight concerns. But if you can perfectly afford it and are using ‘value for money’ or ‘‘product on the park’ as reasons for non attendance but are then perfectly happy to jump on the bandwagon when things get better, then sorry but that’s gloryhunting. Pure and simple.