Vaccine passports at football

[Returnofrros]

And just to avoid doubt......I'd still vote no lockdown if asked when dead or in a coma......obviously I'd never work for the nhs......the shame would be too much.😎

Anyway that's me out for a wee while.....Hopefully Dee can pull off a bit of an upset and stay up.....fingers crossed.

[Returnofrros]

Are you taking the pi55? There's a survey that says 58% of Brits favour another lockdown? How fkn gullible are the people of this fekked up country?

That, unfortunately would have to be another lie issued by the government of liar in chief Boris 'the lying kant' Johnson.

It's actually 58% favour an Austrian style lockdown for unvaccinated.

As the jesus said on the cross.... allegedly " forgive them father, they know not what they do".....if that's the right quote I must a took something in at school.😆

[islaydarkblue]

No sure if you are saying tier 3 has helped Dundee but my take on it would be it's pretty irrelevant what tier you were in it means little at the end of the day......a large minority of folk just ignored it anyway.

Dundee rates lower mow because more folk had it back then therefore more Dundonians have antibodies now.

I'd also suggest the higher rates in Europe now are BECAUSE of severe lockdowns, not as good immunity built up as less exposure.....also the variant that's prevelant in Europe is the one we have had most prevelant for 7 months......so there are no "storm clouds gathering offshore"....Doris ****ing Day is lying with his fear ****.

Note also the leak from the office of national statistics who the leak says sends graphs graphs charts and stats over to the govt daily and when they (the govt) "present" them they are unrecognizable to what was sent over, They have been edited so severely to present worst case.

Also personally I can't abide how no one questions how the figures/stats/info are chopped and changed how it's collated and presented to suit narrative, all about deaths, nah all about cases, nah all about the unvaccinated......it's bull......as is the latest survey suggesting 58% of Brits favour another lockdown......who are they asking? NHS workers, people in a coma and the deceased?

I am not saying that Dundee being in Tier 3 this time last year has helped Dundee this time.
Severe lockdowns are no use as when they are over people then become susceptible to catching illnesses from being in relatively close contact with other people instead of shutting themselves away.
In my opinion the politicians should be explaining why over 250,000+ people throughout the U.K. every week are testing positive for the Covid-19 virus despite most people having had both vaccinations. The percentage figures of people having had their first vaccination and both vaccinations in the U.K. are no longer announced on the BBC national news reports only the number of people.
The current Covid-19 vaccinations are no use as they were produced to deal with the Chinese variant not the Indian variant.

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I am not saying that Dundee being in Tier 3 this time last year has helped Dundee this time.
Severe lockdowns are no use as when they are over people then become susceptible to catching illnesses from being in relatively close contact with other people instead of shutting themselves away.
In my opinion the politicians should be explaining why over 250,000+ people throughout the U.K. every week are testing positive for the Covid-19 virus despite most people having had both vaccinations. The percentage figures of people having had their first vaccination and both vaccinations in the U.K. are no longer announced on the BBC national news reports only the number of people.
The current Covid-19 vaccinations are no use as they were produced to deal with the Chinese variant not the Indian variant.

The vaccine doesn't stop anyone catching Covid. The idea is to reduce the effect and symptoms of the virus and it's been very successful at doing this, That's why they don't report death numbers but try to scare people with the positive test numbers which, in the final analysis, because we've all mitigated the symptoms via vaccine, mean nothing.

[BCram]

The vaccine doesn't stop anyone catching Covid. The idea is to reduce the effect and symptoms of the virus and it's been very successful at doing this, That's why they don't report death numbers but try to scare people with the positive test numbers which, in the final analysis, because we've all mitigated the symptoms via vaccine, mean nothing.

Why can't mainstream media understand this? On a slightly different point, we have had campaigns for years to try to reduce the number of people who end up in hospital over the winter. A combination of NHS staff falling ill, a reduction in the number of people going to see their GP, and a naturally occurring rise in the numbers of respiratory based hospital admissions, based on flu type symptoms has been creating this pressure for years. I wonder if last year was such a success that flattening the curve has actually turned into reducing the amount of health care provision.

[islaydarkblue]

The vaccine doesn't stop anyone catching Covid. The idea is to reduce the effect and symptoms of the virus and it's been very successful at doing this, That's why they don't report death numbers but try to scare people with the positive test numbers which, in the final analysis, because we've all mitigated the symptoms via vaccine, mean nothing.

When myself and tens of thousands of other people including school children in Dundee were vaccinated against contracting Polio in Spring 1962 it was to try to prevent us getting Polio.
It was not to reduce the effect and symptoms of getting the Polio virus.
I know a person who has both Covid-19 vaccinations plus their booster vaccination yet they still contracted the Covid-19 virus and spent several days in ITU.

[islaydarkblue]

Why can't mainstream media understand this? On a slightly different point, we have had campaigns for years to try to reduce the number of people who end up in hospital over the winter. A combination of NHS staff falling ill, a reduction in the number of people going to see their GP, and a naturally occurring rise in the numbers of respiratory based hospital admissions, based on flu type symptoms has been creating this pressure for years. I wonder if last year was such a success that flattening the curve has actually turned into reducing the amount of health care provision.

It would be interesting to know how many people have died in Scotland as a result of not being able to get a ‘face to face’ appointment with their GP since 23rd March 2020 as a patient’s chest cannot be sounded over the phone.
Sadly we will never know as the numbers will be not be released due to ‘confidential reasons’ by the Scottish Government to ‘cover their backs’

[grantzer]

It would be interesting to know how many people have died in Scotland as a result of not being able to get a ‘face to face’ appointment with their GP since 23rd March 2020 as a patient’s chest cannot be sounded over the phone.
Sadly we will never know as the numbers will be not be released due to ‘confidential reasons’ by the Scottish Government to ‘cover their backs’

I would think it would be low,just based on the fact you can still get ' face' 'to' 'face' appointments with your GP.....

[Deeranged]

When myself and tens of thousands of other people including school children in Dundee were vaccinated against contracting Polio in Spring 1962 it was to try to prevent us getting Polio.
It was not to reduce the effect and symptoms of getting the Polio virus.
I know a person who has both Covid-19 vaccinations plus their booster vaccination yet they still contracted the Covid-19 virus and spent several days in ITU.

You do understand that polio and Covid are not the same thing I assume?

[Deeranged]

It would be interesting to know how many people have died in Scotland as a result of not being able to get a ‘face to face’ appointment with their GP since 23rd March 2020 as a patient’s chest cannot be sounded over the phone.
Sadly we will never know as the numbers will be not be released due to ‘confidential reasons’ by the Scottish Government to ‘cover their backs’

I've had two face to face consultations with my GP since 23rd March 2020, once for a steroid injection and once for an examination due to a pain in my abdomen. This is an unusually high number of doctor visits in that period of time for me. To say people can't get face to face consultations is completely wrong, only difference some might find is that you have the phone consultation first then get the face to face appointment, however this was always an option with my GP pre Covid. Neither of these were emergencies so for me personally i didn't see a problem.