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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    You are are missing OUR collective point, that (to put it in simple terms) depite the 'crime' being the same whoever the perp and whoever the victim, the punishment currently is not the same. Geoff's post sums it up calmly and fairly IMO
    Not sure I’m missing anyone’s point, Andy. I’ve acknowledged Azeem Rafiq’s ‘hypocrisy and embarrassment’ and I see no difference in the offence caused by his words and those of Ollie Robinson, but you can’t possibly ‘punish’ someone at the end of their career in the same way as someone (Robinson) who was just beginning their international career.
    The point remains though that we cannot allow subsequent developments to ‘cloud’ the wrongdoing at Yorkshire and elsewhere.
    As Ramshank has sensibly suggested, ‘it’s about making things better that should be the focus’. I agree with that.

    Interesting use of the capitalised ‘OUR’ in your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Not sure I’m missing anyone’s point, Andy. I’ve acknowledged Azeem Rafiq’s ‘hypocrisy and embarrassment’ and I see no difference in the offence caused by his words and those of Ollie Robinson, but you can’t possibly ‘punish’ someone at the end of their career in the same way as someone (Robinson) who was just beginning their international career.
    The point remains though that we cannot allow subsequent developments to ‘cloud’ the wrongdoing at Yorkshire and elsewhere.
    As Ramshank has sensibly suggested, ‘it’s about making things better that should be the focus’. I agree with that.

    Interesting use of the capitalised ‘OUR’ in your post.
    Again you miss the point and our opinion (yes I will use the word our, it appears to be a commonly held opinion/observation here) is that transgressions in one direction earn an uneven punishment in the media. Case in point as recently as today -
    lunchtime news, Azeem Raziq's (first) misdemeanour (and lets bear in mind he has taken a moral stance on such misdemeanour) earned 3 seconds of commentary, Alex Hales (a relative nobody) earned 28 seconds and the need for a video apology. Same disparity this evening, and that despite Raziq being outed on another racist post online. Happens a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Again you miss the point and our opinion (yes I will use the word our, it appears to be a commonly held opinion/observation here) is that transgressions in one direction earn an uneven punishment in the media. Case in point as recently as today -
    lunchtime news, Azeem Raziq's (first) misdemeanour (and lets bear in mind he has taken a moral stance on such misdemeanour) earned 3 seconds of commentary, Alex Hales (a relative nobody) earned 28 seconds and the need for a video apology. Same disparity this evening, and that despite Raziq being outed on another racist post online. Happens a lot
    ‘A commonly held opinion/observation here’. Really? Get over yourself...it’s a commonly held opinion held by you, Tricky and GP...and Alex Hales is hardly a ‘relative nobody’...he’s a former England international opening batsman, in all three forms of the game, who would probably still be in that role had it not been for his previous assorted misdemeanours.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 19-11-2021 at 07:15 PM.

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