Originally Posted by
BigFatPie
I always worry when people use the word ‘establishment’, because no one can seem to agree what it actually means, apart from to mean ‘people I don’t agree with’. It was used during the referendum vote to pretend the leave campaign was an ‘anti-establishment’ movement despite having the vast majority of the governing party and 80% of the print media behind it. Who do you think it means?
Imo Corbyn had to go because he’d lost two elections and was a terrible Labour leader. He associated himself with known anti-semites like Chris Williamson and Ken Livingstone and refused to deal properly with complaints from Jewish members of the party. Allegations that there was some deeper conspiracy by pro Israeli interests against him could be interpreted as being anti Semitic as well, but you’re obviously a well educated guy so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
I’m in no way a ‘centrist’ and liked a lot of the policies of the last Labour manifesto and the one before. I accept though that many people don’t feel that way, and Starmer moving more to the centre is unfortunately the only way we’re going to get rid of this terrible government.
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