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[WBA123]

You wont get a perfect politician. Not possible. They are all good and bad in different areas. Strong and weak in different areas. Its human imperfection.

I agree to an extent. I liked Blair but he didn't get everything right. I didn't like Thatcher, but she didn't get everything wrong.

What I want to see is people in charge who have got the country and its people's best interests at heart. Selfless and principled politicians. I just don't see in any shape or form with this government. They drift from scandal to scandal with hardly any consequence to them. They simply just don't care about normal, everyday people.

Not only are they neither smart or competent, but they make selfish decisions for their own self interest. The shameful thing is we've had this motley crew for 11 years now, and the likelihood is they'll be elected in at the next election too. You have to question why Labour have been so unelectable in this time.

As a disclaimer, I voted for Lib Dems in the last election and would do again if there was another one tomorrow. And I'd really like a party to come out of the wilderness near the centre line that can challenge the Tories and Labour. Having 2 major parties and no alternative competition for them is damaging the country, in my view.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

I agree to an extent. I liked Blair but he didn't get everything right. I didn't like Thatcher, but she didn't get everything wrong.

What I want to see is people in charge who have got the country and its people's best interests at heart. Selfless and principled politicians. I just don't see in any shape or form with this government. They drift from scandal to scandal with hardly any consequence to them. They simply just don't care about normal, everyday people.

Not only are they neither smart or competent, but they make selfish decisions for their own self interest. The shameful thing is we've had this motley crew for 11 years now, and the likelihood is they'll be elected in at the next election too. You have to question why Labour have been so unelectable in this time.

As a disclaimer, I voted for Lib Dems in the last election and would do again if there was another one tomorrow. And I'd really like a party to come out of the wilderness near the centre line that can challenge the Tories and Labour. Having 2 major parties and no alternative competition for them is damaging the country, in my view.

When it comes to choosing leaders the Lib Dems make the Labour Party choices look decent. Not since Paddy have they had one with any gravitas. How many could even name their present leader?

In response to Kettering's earlier post I agree with pretty much everything except the first line 'A change of leader isn’t going to transform British politics.' A leader can transform a school, a company, a Party (Blair) or indeed a country (Thatcher)

[WBA123]

When it comes to choosing leaders the Lib Dems make the Labour Party choices look decent. Not since Paddy have they had one with any gravitas. How many could even name their present leader?

In response to Kettering's earlier post I agree with pretty much everything except the first line 'A change of leader isn’t going to transform British politics.' A leader can transform a school, a company, a Party (Blair) or indeed a country (Thatcher)

My wider point was not necessarily about the LD's, it was to say its not good for the country only having 2 parties who can theoretically win an election. I'd like us to change our voting system, as FPTP favours this two party system.

[boingy]

I agree to an extent. I liked Blair but he didn't get everything right. I didn't like Thatcher, but she didn't get everything wrong.

What I want to see is people in charge who have got the country and its people's best interests at heart. Selfless and principled politicians. I just don't see in any shape or form with this government. They drift from scandal to scandal with hardly any consequence to them. They simply just don't care about normal, everyday people.

Not only are they neither smart or competent, but they make selfish decisions for their own self interest. The shameful thing is we've had this motley crew for 11 years now, and the likelihood is they'll be elected in at the next election too. You have to question why Labour have been so unelectable in this time.

As a disclaimer, I voted for Lib Dems in the last election and would do again if there was another one tomorrow. And I'd really like a party to come out of the wilderness near the centre line that can challenge the Tories and Labour. Having 2 major parties and no alternative competition for them is damaging the country, in my view.

All the same 123. ALL OF THEM. In fact all of US. There is no Golden party. Even if you had web cams on them all 24/7 it won't change anything.

[WBA123]

All the same 123. ALL OF THEM. In fact all of US. There is no Golden party. Even if you had web cams on them all 24/7 it won't change anything.

Well, I agree you won't find perfection in people. But you can get the good and the not so good.

Its just the same as employing someone, or taking on a tradesman to work in your house. You get some who are very good at their jobs, and some who aren't, some with sinister motives and some who are as honest as they come.

Perfection is almost impossible, but usually there's a minimum threshold you expect. I would argue this Government are below that threshold.

[mickd1961]

I agree to an extent. I liked Blair but he didn't get everything right. I didn't like Thatcher, but she didn't get everything wrong.

What I want to see is people in charge who have got the country and its people's best interests at heart. Selfless and principled politicians. I just don't see in any shape or form with this government. They drift from scandal to scandal with hardly any consequence to them. They simply just don't care about normal, everyday people.

Not only are they neither smart or competent, but they make selfish decisions for their own self interest. The shameful thing is we've had this motley crew for 11 years now, and the likelihood is they'll be elected in at the next election too. You have to question why Labour have been so unelectable in this time.

As a disclaimer, I voted for Lib Dems in the last election and would do again if there was another one tomorrow. And I'd really like a party to come out of the wilderness near the centre line that can challenge the Tories and Labour. Having 2 major parties and no alternative competition for them is damaging the country, in my view.

Given your stated age range in previous exchanges, how could you possibly have formed a proper opinion on Thatcher, she was finished whilst you were still a young child.

It’s like me offering my feelings on Alec Douglas-Home and Harold Wilson first time around.

Ludicrous to suggest a child of 0-10 can have a measured political opinion.

[WBA123]

Well I’ve read a lot of historical news pieces, studied her leadership through school and college. Just because I was young when she was PM doesn’t mean she didn’t implement some policies that affected me, or that I can’t form an opinion of her now. You can also measure and judge her decisions and policies with the benefit of time and hindsight.

There are 10 year olds in the country now, who in 30 years time, when they are 40ish, will form their own opinion of Boris Johnson, and the way he has handled Brexit and his decision making. This will affect their future too, and when that time comes they will have just as valid an opinion as me, being someone who is living through this time now as an adult. Don’t you think?

[baggieal]

Given your stated age range in previous exchanges, how could you possibly have formed a proper opinion on Thatcher, she was finished whilst you were still a young child.

It’s like me offering my feelings on Alec Douglas-Home and Harold Wilson first time around.

Ludicrous to suggest a child of 0-10 can have a measured political opinion.

Thatcher was a strong leader unlike the clown Boris! No one messed with Maggie!

[Leicesterbaggie]

I must admit that I would 'give my right arm' to have Maggie leading this country at this moment in time!

[phild]

Sunak as been fairly quiet perhaps he was also at one of those numerous parties (gatherings)

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