O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[upthemaggies]

Enjoy tomorrow lads, might be the last game for a bit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other

Will 19 games be enough to justify a PPG final table or will the season be expunged?
We could drop out of the top 7 on PPG if results go the wrong way.

[upthemaggies]

Anybody watch the C4 Pfizer doc?

Mail previewed it with......
Pfizer accused of funding lies about AstraZeneca's jab: Explosive Channel 4 documentary alleges drug giant paid for speeches linking rival British vaccine to CANCER
Slides from Pfizer funded scientists made several false claims about rival's jab
It clamed the AZ jab could cause cancer and was dangerous to give some people
It is also reported it takes Pfizer 76p to make its jab which sells to the UK for £22
These claims are from a Channel 4 investigation that is due to air later this week
Pfizer denied all suggestions it had worked to undermine other scientific efforts


Meanwhile
BBC broadcaster Victoria Derbyshire
@vicderbyshire
"My brother’s triple-jabbed - the third one was Pfizer 3-4 wks ago. He’s just got covid & feels ‘rough’ & is isolating. Had a Xmas meal out with a load of mates last Friday - all of them vaccinated - 17 out of 21 of them have now tested positive."

Bring on the passports!

[keldsyke]

Anybody watch the C4 Pfizer doc?

Mail previewed it with......
Pfizer accused of funding lies about AstraZeneca's jab: Explosive Channel 4 documentary alleges drug giant paid for speeches linking rival British vaccine to CANCER
Slides from Pfizer funded scientists made several false claims about rival's jab
It clamed the AZ jab could cause cancer and was dangerous to give some people
It is also reported it takes Pfizer 76p to make its jab which sells to the UK for £22
These claims are from a Channel 4 investigation that is due to air later this week
Pfizer denied all suggestions it had worked to undermine other scientific efforts


Meanwhile
BBC broadcaster Victoria Derbyshire
@vicderbyshire
"My brother’s triple-jabbed - the third one was Pfizer 3-4 wks ago. He’s just got covid & feels ‘rough’ & is isolating. Had a Xmas meal out with a load of mates last Friday - all of them vaccinated - 17 out of 21 of them have now tested positive."

Bring on the passports!

If you believe anything the BBC or Channel 4 tell you, you need your head testing, if it doesn’t fit their agendas they will ignore it.

Also do we have all these anti vaccine posts? If you don’t want it fine, but don’t preach to others that they are wrong, the mod needs to have a word!

I had Covid 6 weeks ago, fit, 2 jabs, no underlying health issues, the one thing that I kept thinking about through the scary chest tightening phase is how bad it could have been if I hadn’t had the 2 jabs, I’m afraid some are going to only learn the hard way!

[Elite_Pie]

Anybody watch the C4 Pfizer doc?

I saw most of it, depressing though not unexpected viewing. Big business puts it's profits way ahead of the survival of the human race.

Still, I'm sure on that principle there will be a lucrative job for Boris if he loses this one.

[upthemaggies]

If you believe anything the BBC or Channel 4 tell you, you need your head testing, if it doesn’t fit their agendas they will ignore it.

Also do we have all these anti vaccine posts? If you don’t want it fine, but don’t preach to others that they are wrong, the mod needs to have a word!

[keldsyke]

Re-read the last bit of my post! Stooping to a new low taking the piss out of people who have now had it.

[BigFatPie]

Will 19 games be enough to justify a PPG final table or will the season be expunged?
We could drop out of the top 7 on PPG if results go the wrong way.

19 games wouldn’t be enough, but I hope it wouldn’t come to that.

According to this health journalist from South Africa, early evidence suggests that hospital admissions with omicron higher amongst the age groups with lower vaccination rates. (unsurprisingly).

https://twitter.com/miamalan/status/...054244352?s=21

[cher1]

Anybody watch the C4 Pfizer doc?

Mail previewed it with......
Pfizer accused of funding lies about AstraZeneca's jab: Explosive Channel 4 documentary alleges drug giant paid for speeches linking rival British vaccine to CANCER
Slides from Pfizer funded scientists made several false claims about rival's jab
It clamed the AZ jab could cause cancer and was dangerous to give some people
It is also reported it takes Pfizer 76p to make its jab which sells to the UK for £22
These claims are from a Channel 4 investigation that is due to air later this week
Pfizer denied all suggestions it had worked to undermine other scientific efforts


Meanwhile
BBC broadcaster Victoria Derbyshire
@vicderbyshire
"My brother’s triple-jabbed - the third one was Pfizer 3-4 wks ago. He’s just got covid & feels ‘rough’ & is isolating. Had a Xmas meal out with a load of mates last Friday - all of them vaccinated - 17 out of 21 of them have now tested positive."

Bring on the passports!

Yeah, let's all listen to Victoria Derbyshire on this.

I think some people in this thread are confusing anecdotes and outlying medical opinions with actual peer reviewed studies. If someone could link to some peer reviewed papers published in respected journals, which support the theory that vaccination is a waste of time, it'd be interesting to see them.

As for Pfizer, it wouldn't surprise me if there were dodgy financial dealings within drug companies. That doesn't mean vaccines don't work though. For England, by the end of Q3 2021, estimates suggest that 123,100 deaths and 23,915,000 infections have been prevented
as a result of the COVID-19 vaccination programme, up to 17 September. That's taken from a Public Health England report. The report, and the references used, are here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...illance-report

[upthemaggies]

Re-read the last bit of my post! Stooping to a new low taking the piss out of people who have now had it.

You edited it after I'd replied to your original post.

Welcome to the natural immunity club.

[keldsyke]

You edited it after I'd replied to your original post.

Welcome to the natural immunity club.

I don’t think I’ll be taking advice from someone who gets their ‘facts’ from someone who researches it on the Victoria Derbyshire show, let’s hope you don’t get it and learn the hard way.