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[BCram]

Freedom, liberty and our way of life is at stake......I'm in a minority thinking that but I'm not the only one......these are dangerous times.

I object to you saying basically tough my freedom should be limited as I won't comply with masks, or papers.

Andrew Neil should lose 5 stone that would keep him safer.

I would not go to a party that insisted on that in fact I didn't go to something this week and encouraged 5 others not to go because of insistence of lateral flow.

Will just have to see what happens. You can stick to your personal code and put up with the inconvenience. Not taking part and keeping to yourself seems to me to be a principled way to behave. So well done you.

[Returnofrros]

Will just have to see what happens. You can stick to your personal code and put up with the inconvenience. Not taking part and keeping to yourself seems to me to be a principled way to behave. So well done you.

Not been inconvenienced and have no intention of being inconvienced, I'd say it's the mask wearers that are being inconvienced but they will never admit it.

[islaydarkblue]

[QUOTE=thegen65;39926726]How many times do you need it explained to you??? It was never ever claimed that vaccinations would stop you getting Covid. It was to help stop you getting really unwell and reduce the effects of Covid if you are unfortunate to come down with the infection.

Same with the boosters...its as it says in on the tin a booster to the vaccinations already given to people...so stop banging on about something that was never ever claimed in the first place.
If that is the case then there was not much point me getting the vaccinations which I was not keen to get as I had previously suffered an anaphylactic shock as a result of receiving an injection.
I did not know what was in the Covid vaccine but fortunately I had no side effects.
It is likely that most people in the U.K. assumed that when they received their two Covid vaccinations it was to stop them contracting the Covid-19 virus not to just keep them out of hospital.
I personally know a person who has had both their Covid vaccinations and their booster vaccination yet they subsequently spent several days in ITU suffering from the Covid-19 virus.

[islaydarkblue]

Not been inconvenienced and have no intention of being inconvienced, I'd say it's the mask wearers that are being inconvienced but they will never admit it.

I agree that it is the mask wearers who are being inconvenienced especially when the politicians, health experts and scientists can not prove that wearing a face mask is stopping the spread of the Covid-19 virus.
Over 58,000 new positive Covid-19 cases in the last 24 hours throughout U.K. with over 5,000 new cases in Scotland shows that wearing a face mask and leaving windows open on buses is not stopping the spread of the Covid-19 virus.
The minimal number of new positive Omricon cases cannot be blamed for the 58,000 + new positive Covid-19 cases nor the 343,000+ new positive Covid-19 cases throughout the U.K. in the last seven days.

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I agree that it is the mask wearers who are being inconvenienced especially when the politicians, health experts and scientists can not prove that wearing a face mask is stopping the spread of the Covid-19 virus.
Over 58,000 new positive Covid-19 cases in the last 24 hours throughout U.K. with over 5,000 new cases in Scotland shows that wearing a face mask and leaving windows open on buses is not stopping the spread of the Covid-19 virus.
The minimal number of new positive Omricon cases cannot be blamed for the 58,000 + new positive Covid-19 cases nor the 343,000+ new positive Covid-19 cases throughout the U.K. in the last seven days.

I wonder how many of those 343,000 new 'cases' are actually burdening the NHS? I'll guess at less than 1% or less than 3,430 'cases' of which 5% or 172 'cases' might need ICU treatment, of those 5% or 9 people might succumb to it because of how it effects a pre existing condition.

Around 9 deaths (and it's only an estimate) is too much but in real terms in a population of around 65M; it's absolutely nothing. If the NHS of a country with that population can't cope with that number of 'cases', especially when other conditions are going completely untreated thus freeing up capacity, it's time to look at the lying *******s at the top of the government(s) and to get them out.

[Returnofrros]

I wonder how many of those 343,000 new 'cases' are actually burdening the NHS? I'll guess at less than 1% or less than 3,430 'cases' of which 5% or 172 'cases' might need ICU treatment, of those 5% or 9 people might succumb to it because of how it effects a pre existing condition.

Around 9 deaths (and it's only an estimate) is too much but in real terms in a population of around 65M; it's absolutely nothing. If the NHS of a country with that population can't cope with that number of 'cases', especially when other conditions are going completely untreated thus freeing up capacity, it's time to look at the lying *******s at the top of the government(s) and to get them out.

The latest ****e that's being spouted is worst amount of cases since Jan 9th.....they tested more than double the amount of people for current figure than for the Jan 9th figure so actually you could say there's less than half the amount of people who have tested positive ( in % terms) than Jan 9th.

Smoke mirrors and bull****.

My only hope is England now reacts as Scotland is becoming more like north Korea every day.

But I'll have to ask Andrew ****ing Neil as his medical zealot opinion is gospel......obviously someone who lives in the south of France and is 5 stone overweight (minimum) should have the final say.

As for Sturgeons hysterics yesterday with her tsunami of cases......fearmonger general.....and just plain lies.......there was a tsunami of folk with athletes foot in the summer if it ain't making people I'll so ****ing what.

Johnson.......should be removed not just from power but the country........I think he may be gone very soon.

[Returnofrros]

[QUOTE=islaydarkblue;39926876]

How many times do you need it explained to you??? It was never ever claimed that vaccinations would stop you getting Covid. It was to help stop you getting really unwell and reduce the effects of Covid if you are unfortunate to come down with the infection.

Same with the boosters...its as it says in on the tin a booster to the vaccinations already given to people...so stop banging on about something that was never ever claimed in the first place.
If that is the case then there was not much point me getting the vaccinations which I was not keen to get as I had previously suffered an anaphylactic shock as a result of receiving an injection.
I did not know what was in the Covid vaccine but fortunately I had no side effects.
It is likely that most people in the U.K. assumed that when they received their two Covid vaccinations it was to stop them contracting the Covid-19 virus not to just keep them out of hospital.
I personally know a person who has had both their Covid vaccinations and their booster vaccination yet they subsequently spent several days in ITU suffering from the Covid-19 virus.

Scotland Wales masked, cases went up, England unmasked cases went down......Germany, Italy, France etc....masked cases went up.

Vaccine passports Scotland Wales cases went up, same as France Italy Germany.....England no vaccine passports......ach you'll get it.

[Returnofrros]

I wonder how many of those 343,000 new 'cases' are actually burdening the NHS? I'll guess at less than 1% or less than 3,430 'cases' of which 5% or 172 'cases' might need ICU treatment, of those 5% or 9 people might succumb to it because of how it effects a pre existing condition.

Around 9 deaths (and it's only an estimate) is too much but in real terms in a population of around 65M; it's absolutely nothing. If the NHS of a country with that population can't cope with that number of 'cases', especially when other conditions are going completely untreated thus freeing up capacity, it's time to look at the lying *******s at the top of the government(s) and to get them out.

Is 9 deaths too much when average age of death is 82.....people die.......lots of people die in there 80s.

[grantzer]

[QUOTE=islaydarkblue;39926876]

How many times do you need it explained to you??? It was never ever claimed that vaccinations would stop you getting Covid. It was to help stop you getting really unwell and reduce the effects of Covid if you are unfortunate to come down with the infection.

Same with the boosters...its as it says in on the tin a booster to the vaccinations already given to people...so stop banging on about something that was never ever claimed in the first place.
If that is the case then there was not much point me getting the vaccinations which I was not keen to get as I had previously suffered an anaphylactic shock as a result of receiving an injection.
I did not know what was in the Covid vaccine but fortunately I had no side effects.
It is likely that most people in the U.K. assumed that when they received their two Covid vaccinations it was to stop them contracting the Covid-19 virus not to just keep them out of hospital.
I personally know a person who has had both their Covid vaccinations and their booster vaccination yet they subsequently spent several days in ITU suffering from the Covid-19 virus.

It is more likely that most people didn't need the benefits of a vaccine that will reduce symptoms in the vast majority of cases explained to them about 100 times,and even more likely,those people understood exactly what was going on.

It is also extremely likely that you will post some time in the next week that you think the vaccine was rushed through,and won't stop new cases of the new variant, and probably a story about you telling a doctor what you think,and the reply you claim the doctor gave you

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Is 9 deaths too much when average age of death is 82.....people die.......lots of people die in there 80s.

Probably right.

Wonder if we ever see figures for numbers of deaths caused by delays in getting ambulances to people, delays in getting appointments with GPs, fear of going out in case they encountered a fictitious swarm of Covid and just plain being turned away by the NHS because they were 'too busy' dealing with Covid over the same period. I have a feeling it might be more than my postulated 9 but that we'll also never know.