O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[upthemaggies]

As the virus mutates, the vaccines will be updated to account for this. Work is already well underway.

And in the meantime, the vaccinated drive mutations which could end up rendering all vaccines useless.
This is the key point.

We're making it an arms race.

[SwalePie]

' Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience,'

Mark Twain.

Although I generally agree with your quote, to play the role of Devil's Advocate...


'Trying to change a person's mind by making them feel stupid is not a path to success.'

John Cook


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211209-how-to-talk-to-vaccine-hesitant-people

[upthemaggies]

Although I generally agree with your quote, to play the role of Devil's Advocate...

""Trying to change a person's mind by making them feel stupid is not a path to success."

John Cook (a cognitive scientist at Monash University in Australia)

I'm happy to play the fool, I really don't mind. I'm confident enough I'll be proved right eventually, though that may take decades and I won't be around to see it.

Nobody can be 100% sure in the meantime. It will be like Notts in tier 5 the last two seasons, periods of doom and gloom, periods where the vax appears to be working, it will ebb and flow.

Biotech has said it will need three shots for Omicron, that's on top of the three we've already rolled out. So that's 9 months down the line, by which time you'd expect another variant to justify more jabs to maintain the ongoing vax passport.

The only way out of this is to stop testing and switch resources back to treating the sick instead of jabbing healthy people at no risk and ignoring natural immunity.

[SwalePie]

I'm happy to play the fool, I really don't mind. I'm confident enough I'll be proved right eventually, though that may take decades and I won't be around to see it.

Nobody can be 100% sure in the meantime. It will be like Notts in tier 5 the last two seasons, periods of doom and gloom, periods where the vax appears to be working, it will ebb and flow.

Biotech has said it will need three shots for Omicron, that's on top of the three we've already rolled out. So that's 9 months down the line, by which time you'd expect another variant to justify more jabs to maintain the ongoing vax passport.

The only way out of this is to stop testing and switch resources back to treating the sick instead of jabbing healthy people at no risk and ignoring natural immunity.

OK, I give up. So much for reasoning and science eh? Time for someone else to take up the baton...

[upthemaggies]

OK, I give up. So much for reasoning and science eh? Time for someone else to take up the baton...

I'll shut up now too, or divert it to football matters if we have PPS etc.

[SwalePie]

I'll shut up now too, or divert it to football matters if we have PPS etc.

I guess we haven't really changed anyone's mind and probably never will on an internet football forum to be honest.

Meanwhile, back at Meadow Lane...

[keldsyke]

I'm happy to play the fool, I really don't mind. I'm confident enough I'll be proved right eventually, though that may take decades and I won't be around to see it.

Nobody can be 100% sure in the meantime.

You’ll be proved right, but no one can be 100% sure?? Contradictory?

[cher1]

Although I generally agree with your quote, to play the role of Devil's Advocate...


'Trying to change a person's mind by making them feel stupid is not a path to success.'

John Cook


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211209-how-to-talk-to-vaccine-hesitant-people

On reflection Swale, you're right.

[upthemaggies]

You’ll be proved right, but no one can be 100% sure?? Contradictory?

Read it again - "In the meantime". That is to say, until we have time to assess when its' all over, nobody can be 100% what the turn out will be.

[lunaspie]

Although I generally agree with your quote, to play the role of Devil's Advocate...


'Trying to change a person's mind by making them feel stupid is not a path to success.'

John Cook


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211209-how-to-talk-to-vaccine-hesitant-people

Swale,you are,of course,perfectly correct.The Twain quote I should have used is,

' Never argue with a fool - onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.'