Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
I'm sorry, but if you don't accept that this completely new type of "vaccine" is an experiment, given it's been granted an emergency licence (on the debatable condition there is no effective treatment out there) to circumvent the proper testing procedure and the fact the law has been changed so that companies producing it are not liable no matter how much damage this vaccine may cause, then I'm going to have to conclude that you're just wilfully pretending otherwise as a coping mechanism having been persuaded to sign up for it.

You'd normally be looking at 5 years minimum, probably a decade for something as radical a departure from the normal type of vaccine as this to declare it safe enough to recommend for use (not force). Obviously, there comes a point where you need to test on humans and for that, you need volunteers and so you offer fit and healthy adults a proper cash reward incentive, not granting them basic human rights with the threat of taking those rights away if they don't "volunteer".
It doesn’t help with these polarised arguments that most people are very imprecise with language. The AZ vaccine, along with some others, is not a new type of vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine, again along with some others, is a new type of vaccine, mRNA. The research into mRNA vaccines started in 1987, though the potential wasn’t fully realised at first.