COVID Call offs vs Injuries

[Rev72]

Oz is right yer know.

The lot of you ought to grow the f*ck up!

Especially those British Irish tw@ts who post on ere

[CalverleyBoy]

You do too CB btw

LOL -- teach me to start at the bottom of a thread of posts, I was wondering what I had done.

[spaldy]

Oz

reviewed my thread. don't see where I attacked anyone but the corrupt politicians that take kick backs to jab this new technology crap in our kids arms by mandating it for big pharma companies.

The issue changed drastically once you start talking about putting it in kids.

OT - Do you think the many Americans believe that xiden received 81 million votes? To give you some perspective... Obama, a young and very gifted orator with great political skills and campaigned all over the country received 70 million. The latter defecates in his pants, has a son that made a video with a 15 YO thai hooker while snorting meth and then lost track of a laptop with the video on it, collected millions of dollars from the chinese and moscow mayor and hid in his basement the entire campaign except for some lackluster debates. We are not the brightest bulbs but don't think we are that dim. I used to struggle why my UK friends hated journos so much. Now my loathing for them makes them look like cheerleaders for them.

Like you, the holidays are my favorite time of year and I hope that we all have a safe and happy time this year.

[WTF11]

WTF getting picked on 😆😆😆😆 I think it is a case of reaping what he sows by telling people they are deluded ****WITS or generally insulting them.

If a few people now call his nonsense out well boo hoo - the list of people he has fallen out is longer than the list of Orta’s signings for us.

His recent attacks on MT and Mrs O even though she hasn’t posted for about a year are unbelievable.

He calls people out for being stupid on the basis of ‘facts’ he can’t even be bothered to check. On COVID he is a zealot and has accused anyone who disagrees all sorts - I think I was accused of being like Andrew Wakefield at one point.

I don’t see why he should get away with it and don’t know why you stick up for him for behaving in a manner that causes people to react as they do and call out people for reacting.

He asked for Orgs to stand down as a mod for gods sake - Orgs is one of the politest, most reasonable people out there who does so much to keep the forum going with the prediction leagues.

Whilst I appreciate what Oz has to say, I need him to "stick up" for me like I need another hole in the head. Orgs knows what he said about those unable to attend ER regularly, something I don't believe is acceptable in a mod. He clearly doesn't agree, and neither do you or others like you. I'm quite comfortable with that difference, and to act accordingly.

And by the way, you and Andrew Wakefield are two peas in a pod, as is anyone else who presents a decision not to get vaccinated as some kind of exercising personal freedom (on that subject I agree with every word Oz wrote just now.)

[WTF11]

I guess I'll repeat myself. The covid vaccine, any of them, does not prevent covid. In fact, there is increasing evidence that they are more efficient at spreading it that people who have natural immunity from previous infection.

I'll also point out that the death rate for pre-pubescent children is under 1 in 10 million (US) However, the adverse reaction to vaccinations is closer to 1 in 10,000. Some of these are deadly and many will leave life time damage to these poor kids hearts. All because some politician wanted donations from a pharmaceutical company.

It will come out some time in the future and this will be a black mark on our society that we damaged our children for some politicians desire to be elected or a pharma company to make additional profits. The adverse reaction rate on this vaccine for children is already higher than all of the other children's vaccinations combined over the entire history of giving them. This issue is not to be confused with childhood vaccines given for diseases with high kill rates on children, have been tested for years and decades of experience behind them. 2 different issues being conflated.

The choice to be vaccinated must be an individual's choice and they must be a adult capable to commit to a potential lifetime changing outcome. Just like you don't allow minors to enter into legal contracts because of the lifetime impact. I chose to do it but researched it extensively and determined it was better for me. i would feel much differently if I was 30 years old and in good health.

Your obsession with demanding that everyone is vaccinated or else is eerily similar to the same wonderful people that gave us this virus in the first place. It will also be determined some day this was a mutated virus being developed for a bio weapon that escaped prematurely.

And here is another example if the hypocrisy that pervades politics (anywhere, just strangely ironic that it gets publicised just now)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...XTh?li=BBx1bGE

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Whilst I appreciate what Oz has to say, I need him to "stick up" for me like I need another hole in the head. Orgs knows what he said about those unable to attend ER regularly, something I don't believe is acceptable in a mod. He clearly doesn't agree, and neither do you or others like you. I'm quite comfortable with that difference, and to act accordingly.

And by the way, you and Andrew Wakefield are two peas in a pod, as is anyone else who presents a decision not to get vaccinated as some kind of exercising personal freedom (on that subject I agree with every word Oz wrote just now.)

Once more your grip on facts and reality and what you assert is away with the fairies. Andrew Wakefield was said to have presented the MMR vaccines as dangerous and not to be taken a very different proposition. He was found to have no basis for saying so.

Injecting anything into ones body has to be a personal choice based on relevant accurate information. That you seem to disagree with as in your opinion you know best and better than a lot of scientists and academics.

Says it all really - and for someone who said they weren’t going to throw insults out you seemed to have delighted in doing it since your joyous return to here.

You make so much noise and there is a famous saying about such vessels being somewhat empty.

Again priceless you have a pop at Orgs for expressing a view.

We also know you never go to games yet you comment upon and slag off players left right and centre and by association have a big at Orta.

You just seem like a narrow minded angry soul who things the problem is with everyone else when if you actually looked in the mirror the answer would be staring back at you.

You time and again are offensive, prone to bully people, have made racist and ***ist comments - what a lovely example of humanity you are.

If ever the phrase ALAW didn’t apply to anyone on here it would be to you.

[WTF11]

Once more your grip on facts and reality and what you assert is away with the fairies. Andrew Wakefield was said to have presented the MMR vaccines as dangerous and not to be taken a very different proposition. He was found to have no basis for saying so.

Injecting anything into ones body has to be a personal choice based on relevant accurate information. That you seem to disagree with as in your opinion you know best and better than a lot of scientists and academics.

Says it all really - and for someone who said they weren’t going to throw insults out you seemed to have delighted in doing it since your joyous return to here.

You make so much noise and there is a famous saying about such vessels being somewhat empty.

Again priceless you have a pop at Orgs for expressing a view.

We also know you never go to games yet you comment upon and slag off players left right and centre and by association have a big at Orta.

You just seem like a narrow minded angry soul who things the problem is with everyone else when if you actually looked in the mirror the answer would be staring back at you.

You time and again are offensive, prone to bully people, have made racist and ***ist comments - what a lovely example of humanity you are.

If ever the phrase ALAW didn’t apply to anyone on here it would be to you.

On the vaccine front, Wakefiekd presented what he asserted as fact totally bogus links between the MMR vaccine and autism, so effectively tgat we now have a measles epidemic amongst those whose parents were so scared that they refused to have their young children vaccinated. Measles is an annoyance when young, it KILLS when contracted in adulthood.

In Covid vaccines, how's this for a deal. It is entirely up to anyone as to whether they do or don't get vaccinated, just as it ought to be the right of the NHS to refuse to treat those who are unvaccinated for all the reasons Oz mentioned (I'd extend that to all those who abuse illegal drugs (intravenous or otherwise), all smokers and those who abuse alcohol, just so you know). Deal?

And on the science, provide ANY evidence that says that NOT being vaccinated is preferable to being vaccinated, please.

On the debate regarding Orgs, "We also know you never go to games". And exactly how do you or anyone else "know" that? I may not have a season ticket but I've been a club member my entire adult life and I DO go to games when I can, but like many many Leeds supporters I can't do so as often as I would like (or as often as Orgs considers a pre-requisite to being able to comment on the team I have supported for over 50 years). Orgs "expressed a view" by insulting every supporter who is unable to attend ER as many times as he considers "good enough". Great from a mod.

I'll give you some comments I make muggt be considered by some as racist, but s e x ist, when, please tell?

And "ALAW"? A mod can implicitly criticises a Leeds supporter of longer standing than most who post here simply because they can't attend ER as often as this self-appointed arbiter of "adequate" support deems enough. ALAW ceases to mean much in times like that.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

On the vaccine front, Wakefiekd presented what he asserted as fact totally bogus links between the MMR vaccine and autism, so effectively tgat we now have a measles epidemic amongst those whose parents were so scared that they refused to have their young children vaccinated. Measles is an annoyance when young, it KILLS when contracted in adulthood.

In Covid vaccines, how's this for a deal. It is entirely up to anyone as to whether they do or don't get vaccinated, just as it ought to be the right of the NHS to refuse to treat those who are unvaccinated for all the reasons Oz mentioned (I'd extend that to all those who abuse illegal drugs (intravenous or otherwise), all smokers and those who abuse alcohol, just so you know). Deal?

And on the science, provide ANY evidence that says that NOT being vaccinated is preferable to being vaccinated, please.

On the debate regarding Orgs, "We also know you never go to games". And exactly how do you or anyone else "know" that? I may not have a season ticket but I've been a club member my entire adult life and I DO go to games when I can, but like many many Leeds supporters I can't do so as often as I would like (or as often as Orgs considers a pre-requisite to being able to comment on the team I have supported for over 50 years). Orgs "expressed a view" by insulting every supporter who is unable to attend ER as many times as he considers "good enough". Great from a mod.

I'll give you some comments I make muggt be considered by some as racist, but s e x ist, when, please tell?

And "ALAW"? A mod can implicitly criticises a Leeds supporter of longer standing than most who post here simply because they can't attend ER as often as this self-appointed arbiter of "adequate" support deems enough. ALAW ceases to mean much in times like that.

So you equate me with someone who deliberately published false data when all I was doing was defending the right of people to make their own choices but based on fu information. Again priceless.

Your treatment and comments and general denigration of MT and Mrs O come across as s exist or misogynistic bullying.

Your treatment of Orgs is self serving - called out for being wrong so go on the attack.

You just seem to delight in making trouble with/slagging off anyone who disagrees with you.

Just very very sad but also incredibly annoying.

[Orgoner]

On the vaccine front, Wakefiekd presented what he asserted as fact totally bogus links between the MMR vaccine and autism, so effectively tgat we now have a measles epidemic amongst those whose parents were so scared that they refused to have their young children vaccinated. Measles is an annoyance when young, it KILLS when contracted in adulthood.

In Covid vaccines, how's this for a deal. It is entirely up to anyone as to whether they do or don't get vaccinated, just as it ought to be the right of the NHS to refuse to treat those who are unvaccinated for all the reasons Oz mentioned (I'd extend that to all those who abuse illegal drugs (intravenous or otherwise), all smokers and those who abuse alcohol, just so you know). Deal?

And on the science, provide ANY evidence that says that NOT being vaccinated is preferable to being vaccinated, please.

On the debate regarding Orgs, "We also know you never go to games". And exactly how do you or anyone else "know" that? I may not have a season ticket but I've been a club member my entire adult life and I DO go to games when I can, but like many many Leeds supporters I can't do so as often as I would like (or as often as Orgs considers a pre-requisite to being able to comment on the team I have supported for over 50 years). Orgs "expressed a view" by insulting every supporter who is unable to attend ER as many times as he considers "good enough". Great from a mod.

I'll give you some comments I make muggt be considered by some as racist, but s e x ist, when, please tell?

And "ALAW"? A mod can implicitly criticises a Leeds supporter of longer standing than most who post here simply because they can't attend ER as often as this self-appointed arbiter of "adequate" support deems enough. ALAW ceases to mean much in times like that.

I’m pretty sure my “unacceptable stuff” was aimed squarely at you (and just you) since you were routinely claiming to be the oracle of all things football and Leeds United, yet you (presumably) have no formal qualifications (coaching, refereeing, playing) and rarely see them play beyond whatever you watch on your screen or monitor.

It doesn’t mean you can’t have an opinion or add to conversations, it just means that your views might not be as complete or nuanced as they might be. I fully stand by that opinion.

Doesn’t seem an unreasonable set of conclusions to draw, surely?

[WTF11]

I’m pretty sure my “unacceptable stuff” was aimed squarely at you (and just you) since you were routinely claiming to be the oracle of all things football and Leeds United, yet you (presumably) have no formal qualifications (coaching, refereeing, playing) and rarely see them play beyond whatever you watch on your screen or monitor.

It doesn’t mean you can’t have an opinion or add to conversations, it just means that your views might not be as complete or nuanced as they might be. I fully stand by that opinion.

Doesn’t seem an unreasonable set of conclusions to draw, surely?

To assert, based on absolutely no knowledge or fact whatsoever that I "attend ER" less frequently than those who reside in places such as Monaco, or the Iberian peninsula, is hardly the mark of a responsible person, never mind a mod.

I've never suggested in some kind of oracle of anything, but I suspect my opinions, particularly when it comes to the subject of player recruitment, are at least as accurate as those who are paid substantial sums of money by LUFC. And yet again you guess at how often I see my team play, and even if you are right, that negates my opinion (And of those who have similar challenges) compared to those who are able to attend ER more regularly?

So a ST holder attends ER 10 times a season, as they aren't able to do so more rgukarlyt, and I go 3 times a season but watch each of the LUFC games televised on Sky (thanks to the generosity of my daughters) or (occasionaly) on other channels, total 12 games, so 15 altogether. Who has the best insight on team performance, the most "complete or nuanced"?

ALAW? My ar5e.