It will not go away.

[sinkov]

We will do round in ever increasing circles on this issue sinkov.

Because I despise the way the IDF treats civilian Arabs does not make me anti-Semitic mon ami.

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Shocking BT, I remain certain that your continuing obsession with the JEWISH state of Israel is not motivated by anti-semitism.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Shocking BT, I remain certain that your continuing obsession with the JEWISH state of Israel is not motivated by anti-semitism.

Glad you have brought up a more pertinent question mon ami, "Is Israel a Jewish State or THE Jewish State?"

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Come on BT the man that rubbed shoulders with the IRA and Hamas and squirmed and wriggled to avoid condoning anything his racist/ terrorist friends did for years right back to the Birmingham bombings ( listened to them when he was a younger man and leapords don’t change their spots ).

Murdoch might have had him to a tee

Eventually it caught up with him and his position was untenable when he blatantly denied being anti semetic but also once again refused to condone those that were.

I know you loved him BT but he was just like the rest if we’re honest , me me ,me ,me and all I’m really bothered about is me.

Jeremy Corbyn having been stabbed in the back by Starmer intends to run as an Independent in the next General Election. His constituents who know he is so far away from being anti-Semitic will landslide him in. They realise if the likes of Berger, Starmer, Hodge, Riley and Lammy, repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and the quartet have now come to believe it themselves.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-labour-leader

Let the good people of Islington decide eh?

[sinkov]

repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it,

Is this BT, the theory behind your continuing avalanche of propaganda posts directed against JEWISH people and the JEWISH state of Israel. Is that the explanation for this bizarre onslaught ? I only ask.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Is this BT, the theory behind your continuing avalanche of propaganda posts directed against JEWISH people and the JEWISH state of Israel. Is that the explanation for this bizarre onslaught ? I only ask.

I always thought you were not reading my posts with anything other than premeditated anti-Semitism mon ami. I have only ever criticised the IDF's treatment of civilian Arab Muslims sinkov.

Just take off your right wing tinted blue spectacles, rid yourself of selective myopia, and see what is really happening in what was formerly known as Palestine.

I can't be arsed trawling through the zillions of posts, but I recall Balan telling us about 41% of Israelis are secular Jews. A lot of them despise the IDF.

[army88]

Jeremy Corbyn having been stabbed in the back by Starmer intends to run as an Independent in the next General Election. His constituents who know he is so far away from being anti-Semitic will landslide him in. They realise if the likes of Berger, Starmer, Hodge, Riley and Lammy, repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and the quartet have now come to believe it themselves.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-labour-leader

Let the good people of Islington decide eh?

get it Bt but be realistic - I didn’t really air to his anti semetic only that he didn’t condemn those within that obviously were - however I still believe he’s a terrorist supporter and I did say listen to the interviews after the bombings way back - he refused to answer or condemn the killing of innocent people when asked his views.

Plus you’ll struggle to convince anyone he’s not a Hamas supporter I feel.

Said before BT he’s just like every other politician in that it’s all about him - the pattern exists for pretty much all of them wether there blue , red , yellow , green , people and politics have evolved and the local mill owner ( MP) in a village/ town who genuinely cared about people and their issues are on a tiny scale - all that really matters is themselves.

Saying that my local butcher ( conservative Mp ) is genuinely trying to make our village and surrounding better and is a genuine man I believe - So there are still some out there in the Abyss of liers and cheats.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I suppose Rachel Riley will blame this type of abhorrent attack on Corbyn too?

https://antisemitism.org/urgent-appe...eid=53306fd169

[sinkov]

I always thought you were not reading my posts with anything other than premeditated anti-Semitism mon ami. I have only ever criticised the IDF's treatment of civilian Arab Muslims sinkov.

Just take off your right wing tinted blue spectacles, rid yourself of selective myopia, and see what is really happening in what was formerly known as Palestine.

I can't be arsed trawling through the zillions of posts, but I recall Balan telling us about 41% of Israelis are secular Jews. A lot of them despise the IDF.

This has nothing to do with me BT, I am but a dispassionate observer, noting your obsession with the activities of the JEWISH state of Israel, to the exclusion of everything else. Add to this the seemingly endless torrent of abuse aimed at JEWISH politicians in this country, almost exclusively female I would add, but I won't go down that road, and I merely ponder the origins of this obsession, having been assured by your good self that it is not anti-semitism.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

This has nothing to do with me BT, I am but a dispassionate observer, noting your obsession with the activities of the JEWISH state of Israel, to the exclusion of everything else. Add to this the seemingly endless torrent of abuse aimed at JEWISH politicians in this country, almost exclusively female I would add, but I won't go down that road, and I merely ponder the origins of this obsession, having been assured by your good self that it is not anti-semitism.

Hodge, Berger and co. played the anti-Semitic card against Corbyn, like Asian grooming gangs play the racist card.

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The trouble is the "masses" bought into the lie, which really is f*cking shameful.

[Balanbam00]

BT: I have no idea of those figures ,it seems there are many religious people but less secular, but when you say ''A lot of them despise the IDF.?'' That's very vague. To the extent it could mean 10% or 90%? Then the source why they would despise? Have they been in the army and disliked their service or because they are cracking skulls open?? Many young in the recruiting age volunteer for a fighting unit ,some may want to sit at a desk before a computer. Mostly I heard Kibbutzniks want a fighting unit?
Conscription exists in Israel for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish (both genders), or Druze and Circassian (male only); Arab citizens of Israel are not conscripted. Arab citizens can enlist if they want to but are not required by law.