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Thread: Every day the vaccine rolls out

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    Sturgeons puppet caught using out of date data to justify current restrictions.

    Ooooops.

    https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....mpaign=organic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    Report on the BBC last night mentioned the percentages of people going into hospital now that are unvaccinated, and while i cannot remember the figures, they were eye watering!
    According to Boris last night it was 61%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    That's not quite right, maybe in your health board? The latest published figure for 4 Jan there were 42 folk in ICUs.

    https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...-for-scotland/
    Its the Omcron variant - but given how the determine these not sure i trust any figures being released now. I know of someones dad who was diabetic they got covid, wasnt picked up as they focused on covid not diabetes - amistake in the hospital as despite being told he was diabetic it took 2 days for them to ask is he diabetic but which time his condition had detrioated (not due to covid), he died due to diabetitis but because they had covid its put down as covid. Just an example.

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    I see the Six Nations may be getting moved to English stadiums as a way of getting around playing in front of no fans. Wales exploring the option of using Spurs' stadium and Scotland St. James' Park. A proper 'f*ck you' to their respective governments if this goes ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackRowArab View Post
    ICU cases from Omicron won't really be noticeable for a few weeks. The hospital cases have just started to go up. There is always a delay between the cases going up, to hospital cases increasing to then people going into ICU.

    Cases should also take a big bump up in the next couple of weeks too now that the schools are back.
    They might well do - be interesting to see the Omicron variant figures then too. I guess high cases low serious cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    I see the Six Nations may be getting moved to English stadiums as a way of getting around playing in front of no fans. Wales exploring the option of using Spurs' stadium and Scotland St. James' Park. A proper 'f*ck you' to their respective governments if this goes ahead.
    fvck sake thats just crazy eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    The thing on deaths you have linked to is from October 2020, and i am wondering how relevant that is to what we are dealing with now and the tools we have to fight it?

    Report on the BBC last night mentioned the percentages of people going into hospital now that are unvaccinated, and while i cannot remember the figures, they were eye watering!

    I have my doubts that Nics restrictions have been heeded as much as she wanted as those that feel the need will still be in the pubs and gather in their own homes. On that note, i might not attend myself, but i do hope she lifts the football restrictions for those that want to!
    I see your point but it’s a bit of an oxymoron — we have better tools now which may mean longer time to death but those same tools would inevitably mean a lower death rate.

    On a wider note I’d have no objection to any of these restrictions if they were voluntary. If someone doesn’t feel comfortable going to the football that’s fine, but to ban people from going to games is over the mark IMO.

    The original argument was that you might pass the virus on directly or indirectly to a vulnerable person. That argument is gone now as a) the virus is everywhere so everyone will be exposed at some point and b) people who are vulnerable will be vaccinated and boosted and/or will have access to the new antiviral drugs, which appear to have an extremely high success rate.

    So that changes things to everyone for themselves; you decide what level of vaxxing and restrictions you want based on how high the risk of covid appears to you.

    Same as you can choose how many cigarettes to smoke, how much beer to drink and whether you want to play dangerous sports that might kill or injure you — maybe even making you a ‘burden’ on the NHS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARAbCHNID View Post
    It's not 'Sturgeon'. It is the Scottish Executive. She is the spokesperson. I dislike the singularisation of politics. When you hear it applied to 'Boris' or 'Boris Johnson' I cringe. Fancy that buffoon deciding anything alone.
    Sturgeon 5 minutes ago:

    "I will always be accountable for, and open to, scrutiny on the judgements I make, but I will continue to take these judgements really carefully and with the best clinical advice."

    I, I and more I.

    Singular.

    Sturgeon.

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    So, three main changes from today:

    People who test positive for Covid in Scotland can end self-isolation after seven days if they have no fever and record two negative lateral flow tests.

    Household contacts of people with the virus will be allowed to take lateral flow tests rather than self-isolating, as long as they have had their booster.

    Asymptomatic people who return a positive lateral flow test will no longer have to confirm their result with a PCR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    Sturgeon 5 minutes ago:

    "I will always be accountable for, and open to, scrutiny on the judgements I make, but I will continue to take these judgements really carefully and with the best clinical advice."

    I, I and more I.

    Singular.

    Sturgeon.
    100% its her decision executive will present facts she will listen and is probably agreeing with them, but in the end its her decision.

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