It will not go away.

[Balanbam00]

So B T you tell us what the objectives of a Zionist and the State of Israel are.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I've included a graphic for the Zionists Balan,

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This reflects the State of Israel...

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Zionism is a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.

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[Balanbam00]

So you do not read about Palestinian violence 'haver'?
1,377 people have been killed by Palestinian violence and terrorism since September 2000......so so ?

'' we built a wall of 'Lego bricks.' Then along comes 'Bansky' and starts painting on it. I say very nice of him to make this donation.

Its all for the 'cause' you know.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

The world at times and in certain places is pretty messed up. I can’t imagine it is easy being surrounded by states that what you destroyed. I also can’t imagine living in the extreme poverty and lack of hope in parts of the Middle East and occupied territories.

It is just very very sad tbh - religious leaders and political leaders also seem to not really care about the ordinary person.

Beruit and the Lebanon looked like an oasis is liberal tolerance and sense in the 1960s and 1970s so it goes to show how sometimes you even need to guard and fight for the status quo - a lesson the modern western world needs to learn again.

[Balanbam00]

Hopeless here on this Forum we have debated this for years. But what do you call the 'occupied territories'? Please clear up this matter. Thank you .

[alfinyalcabo]

Hopeless here on this Forum we have debated this for years. But what do you call the 'occupied territories'? Please clear up this matter. Thank you .

Me thinks its Lancs and Yarks Balan.Both are full of "off comed un's".😉

[Balanbam00]

That map is a map of the 'Ottoman period,' the Ottomen divided the areas into areas known as 'sanjaks' ,( that's why you see the areas, as shown. The Sanjak of Acre (عكا),The Sanjak of Safad (صفد),The Sanjak of Nablus (نابلس), The Sanjak of Jerusalem (القدس) etc. In these areas there was no Palestine, if this was Palestine why is it divided into areas?
It was not Palestine it was part of the Ottoman empire.

The only reason it is called Palestine was because of the Roman Emperor Hadrian who changed the name of the Judea province to Syria Palaestina, and founded Aelia Capitolina on the ruins of Jerusalem

[Balanbam00]

No ,no Alfi By correct definition, its the away stand on every football ground. Of course the United Nations have not got around to making this International Law yet. The grape vine is rumoured to have this debate after the African nations cup, the problem with that is they have not stated which year? ( 2022,2023 etc etc )

[The Bedlington Terrier]

For some, it will always be Palestine Balan...

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