New Buyer Progress

[MadAmster]

Well not sure that the "whinge" from other managers about buying player isn't just DET generated click bait!

DET took it from the pages of the Torygraph.

Apparently there is "advice" to Administrators to accept "reasonable" offers for players. Obviously Rooney and the Administrators don't deem the amounts offered to be sufficient.

Even if they did accept a bid, the player would still have to agree to go.

[Trickytreesreds]

Morning everyone, I'm back safely and sleep caught up.

First question is, which one of you posted this begging letter?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480965737623822339

[swaledale]

DET took it from the pages of the Torygraph.

Apparently there is "advice" to Administrators to accept "reasonable" offers for players. Obviously Rooney and the Administrators don't deem the amounts offered to be sufficient.

Even if they did accept a bid, the player would still have to agree to go.

Indeed, a bid first needs to be realistic, one could argue that allowing an "asset" to be sold cheaply would not be in creditors interests!

I'll take your word about the Torygraph, not a paper I willingly read!

[MadAmster]

Indeed, a bid first needs to be realistic, one could argue that allowing an "asset" to be sold cheaply would not be in creditors interests!

I'll take your word about the Torygraph, not a paper I willingly read!

Not one I read either, It's the source the DET/Derbyshire Live quoted so it may have come from anywhere

[swaledale]

Don’t disagree with the general sentiment of all that although I’m not entirely sure about the ‘self inflicted’ wounds.
I and many others vociferously supported that particular local ‘businessman’ being unaware of the alleged ‘wrongdoing’ that was taking place under his ownership.
Such owners are only ever temporary fixtures and custodians. The ‘club’ is bigger than all of them but it is the club...i.e. DCFC with all its 138 year history and it’s supporters...who now stand to suffer most
In that context I believe Gibson’s actions to be deplorable (Wycombe’s marginally more understandable). If he has a score to settle with Morris than that’s up to him, but it would be good (and entirely justified imo) to see the football world come together and tell Gibson that enough is enough where DCFC is concerned.

As regards the rest...you’re right and, as I’ve acknowledged, we’ve been guilty of parasitic and predatory behaviour ourselves, but the sight of football clubs now falling over themselves (off the pitch) to do others down is an unedifying one imo.

I don't actually think either Boro or Wycombe's claims stand much chance of success. I agree its lamentable but thats human beings.

[Trickytreesreds]

The mess is solely down to the EFL.
If they had responded with the same speed as they did with SWFC. None of this would be necessary.
After all, a minimum 3 point fine, would have sealed it and no one would be complaining.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Indeed, a bid first needs to be realistic, one could argue that allowing an "asset" to be sold cheaply would not be in creditors interests!

I'll take your word about the Torygraph, not a paper I willingly read!

Know thine enemy, Swale, know thine enemy. Why do you think I read the Grauniad?

[Geoff Parkstone]

I don't actually think either Boro or Wycombe's claims stand much chance of success. I agree its lamentable but thats human beings.

I wouldn't give either action a snowballs's chance in hell in an open court, but when the club is in administration and trying to find a buyer, these opportunists come out of the woodwork. Under administration these things have to be negotiated away so any new buyer has a clean slate.

Its interesting that claims were only launched once DCFC entered administration, and under circumstances whereby what amounts to blackmail can be used. In any other circumstances the claims could be ignored, but in our current situation its an opportunist attempt to make a few quid, at best off the new buyer and, at worst, off the taxpayer by forcing HMRC into accepting a lower sum - there is only so much money available so the more snouts get in the trough, the less each snout gets to eat. Dell is OK, as he has security on the ground. Everyone else loses.

Actually, depending on how preferential the HMRC debt is (depends on age and type) there may no chance of either claim getting anything in a winding up anyway, so in reality its an attempt to leverage money off the new buyer, thus leaving less to inject into the Club if its a fixed price bid.

[MadAmster]

We should, firmly but politely, tell both clubs to do one. If either has a case it's with the EFL.

[Geoff Parkstone]

We should, firmly but politely, tell both clubs to do one. If either has a case it's with the EFL.

Unfortunately we can be as firm and polite as we like, but since under administration, the matter can never progress to court, we cant get the claims thrown out, and so new buyers cannot be assured that no action will follow. Its a sort of double edged sword - administrators et al have to persuade Middlesbro and Wycombe to go away without being able to point to a failure in court. So the clubs have nothing to lose, not even costs as they have parked a claim, and everything to gain, by continuing to hold the knife against our throat, waiting to be bought off. I suppose its a bit like being kidnapped - or having Kier Starmer as your defence attorney