O/T booster jabs.

[great_fire]

Yes but if the majority did stay in their homes then that will have saved lives so they were right
Untrustworthy though and the person at the helm should be dispatched

No it just delayed things and kept the pandemic going longer.

Unless you're going to stay in your house and never see anyone in person ever again it doesn't work.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

No it just delayed things and kept the pandemic going longer.

Unless you're going to stay in your house and never see anyone in person ever again it doesn't work.

But that’s the point, a flat curve rather than a pronounced sharp one so control measures can be researched and implemented and the NHS isn’t overrun in a short time.

[great_fire]

But that’s the point, a flat curve rather than a pronounced sharp one so control measures can be researched and implemented and the NHS isn’t overrun in a short time.

Did they balance that against the deaths and other misery caused by the lockdowns though?

Suicides, missed cancers, other missed illnesses, domestic murders and abuse, child murders and abuse.

Five women were killed in one week in Doncaster in July 2020.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9636461.html

[CAMiller]

Did they balance that against the deaths and other misery caused by the lockdowns though?

Suicides, missed cancers, other missed illnesses, domestic murders and abuse, child murders and abuse.

Five women were killed in one week in Doncaster in July 2020.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9636461.html

Couldn't you argue the contrary case too that 'incidental' lives were also saved by the lockdown? Less road deaths, less pedestrian deaths, less workplace accident deaths...etc.

[great_fire]

Couldn't you argue the contrary case too that 'incidental' lives were also saved by the lockdown? Less road deaths, less pedestrian deaths, less workplace accident deaths...etc.

That's a good point.

But I think when we look at it in the future we'll see that more lives will have been lost in lockdown than were saved, they also need to compare ages and health profiles.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

That's a good point.

But I think when we look at it in the future we'll see that more lives will have been lost in lockdown than were saved, they also need to compare ages and health profiles.

Yes that’s probably true, but one death that was avoided was the death of the NHS

We still have to settle that bill but the patient didn’t die

Lockdown “flattened the curve” and bought time

[CAMiller]

That's a good point.

But I think when we look at it in the future we'll see that more lives will have been lost in lockdown than were saved, they also need to compare ages and health profiles.

I'd like to see the data showing where "more lives will have been lost in lockdown than were saved". That's basically saying less people would have died of Covid if we'd simply gone about 'business as normal' in the 9-12 months prior to the vaccine being widely available.

[great_fire]

I'd like to see the data showing where "more lives will have been lost in lockdown than were saved". That's basically saying less people would have died of Covid if we'd simply gone about 'business as normal' in the 9-12 months prior to the vaccine being widely available.

That was just a guess, but we'll find out hopefully, when we have the inquiry.

Lord Frost has said; “I think, honestly, people are going to look back at the last couple of years globally and see lockdown as a pretty serious public policy mistake,” he said.

“I would like to see the Government ruling out lockdowns for the future; repealing the legislation; ending them. We can’t afford it [and] it doesn’t work. Stop doing Covid theatre – vaccine passports, masks, stuff that doesn’t work – and focus on stuff that does work so that we’re ready if the next one is worse."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ernment-needs/

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Did they balance that against the deaths and other misery caused by the lockdowns though?

Suicides, missed cancers, other missed illnesses, domestic murders and abuse, child murders and abuse.

Five women were killed in one week in Doncaster in July 2020.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9636461.html

Quite right

We have an overworked NHS without covid

Too many people in an overcrowded island