O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[ramAnag]

I think the issue is one of perspective rA. The antics of one arsehole PM and his hypocrisy is one tiny little drop in the ocean of the whole question of handling COVID. It seems therefore desperate to keep harping on about what, ultimately, is an irrelevance in the bigger picture.

Mistakes have no doubt been made, and successes have been notched up in the "battle against the unknown enemy", but those successes and failures do dwarf the cheese and wine party into insignificance.

I’m sure it is, GP...but it is also a matter of fact.
My perspective is that the behaviour indulged in by the PM and others, and not just at cheese and wine parties, is symptomatic of a regime that happily indulges in a philosophy on one rule for them and another for us.
The facts are that our Covid death and case figures are the worst in Europe and amongst the worst in the World.
I’ve acknowledged elsewhere that this Government has done some things well and agreed with Tricky on an overall 5/10 score but I struggle to understand how you of all people would accept that as being particularly laudable.

[Trickytreesreds]

I’m sure it is, GP...but it is also a matter of fact.
My perspective is that the behaviour indulged in by the PM and others, and not just at cheese and wine parties, is symptomatic of a regime that happily indulges in a philosophy on one rule for them and another for us.
The facts are that our Covid death and case figures are the worst in Europe and amongst the worst in the World.
I’ve acknowledged elsewhere that this Government has done some things well and agreed with Tricky on an overall 5/10 score but I struggle to understand how you of all people would accept that as being particularly laudable.

I don't think they do RA.

But most folks accept that the politicians of today, are dodgy at best.
They have ALL done something that warrents outrage.
You focus on the Tories, as theya re in power.
But were they not, would you be as outraged, with the rest of them?
The papers are full of Starmers drinky poos, with his team in retaliation. He's claiming (wait for it) it was a works meeting,

[ramAnag]

I don't think they do RA.

But most folks accept that the politicians of today, are dodgy at best.
They have ALL done something that warrents outrage.
You focus on the Tories, as theya re in power.
But were they not, would you be as outraged, with the rest of them?
The papers are full of Starmers drinky poos, with his team in retaliation. He's claiming (wait for it) it was a works meeting,

You don’t ‘think they do’ what?

Of course I’ve focused on the Tories because they’re in power...that’s what the thread is about.

Yes, if other individuals had been breaking the rules and holding parties throughout lockdown I’d criticise them but, from what I’ve seen of this picture of Starmer, you do seem to be clutching at straws.
Would it have been alright if he’d been drinking a cup of tea rather than a glass of beer?

[Trickytreesreds]

You don’t ‘think they do’ what?

Of course I’ve focused on the Tories because they’re in power...that’s what the thread is about.

Yes, if other individuals had been breaking the rules and holding parties throughout lockdown I’d criticise them but, from what I’ve seen of this picture of Starmer, you do seem to be clutching at straws.
Would it have been alright if he’d been drinking a cup of tea rather than a glass of beer?

No it wouldn't. Clutching at straws or not. Was him and his crew in breech?
Yes they were. Like I said, let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

The list goes on and on.
I'm amazed that they all don't get called out for it. They keep awarding themselves huge rises over inflation, with expenses equal to the GDP of a small nation.
PARLIAMENT- is the office of the country.
You expect better

[swaledale]

No it wouldn't. Clutching at straws or not. Was him and his crew in breech?
Yes they were. Like I said, let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

The list goes on and on.
I'm amazed that they all don't get called out for it. They keep awarding themselves huge rises over inflation, with expenses equal to the GDP of a small nation.
PARLIAMENT- is the office of the country.
You expect better

In which case you'd best not post anymore!

[Trickytreesreds]

In which case you'd best not post anymore!

Well seeing as I'd never listen you.

Here's another one.
According to the office of National Statistics= only 17000 people died in 2 years from COVID with no underlying health concerns.
Doesn't say how of those were un vaccinated, but my guess would be on the high side.

So when we call out the governments handling of COVID, there are other questions to be asked,

With all the chaos that has now been caused and the 2 million waiting for treatment, have we been over reacting after all?

The death rate in the next 5 years from other things, is going to be grim.


nb the average age of those who died last year, was over 82