Freedom of information Covid

[baggiematt]

As soon as i saw the title of this thread, I knew baggiematt would be right on it 😂 didn’t think calgary would either. But it seems a little weird as soon as covid is mentioned you guys act like some guardian to protect some conspiracy going on.

Like i’ve said before, i’m keeping an open mind here. I’ve had my two jabs plus the booster and recently tested positive for omicron. It was an average cd like symptoms and fatigue.

Anyway, you both seem to be taking huge aim at discrediting Dr Campbell.. I actually think he’s quite credible and he has presented the data sources very well. He has no agenda, so I don’t understand why you guys are trying to discredit what he says? Is he trying to suggest some truth that we’ve all been thinking?
Do you both have shares in big pharma?

Just another perspective over the anti vax, anti restriction view that occurs on the forum so regularly. There’s several different types of posts certain folk take interest in and have a staunch viewpoint on. Is that ok with you?

I don’t buy into these YouTube doctors telling you what to do while some proper doctors are being discredited.

Of course he has an agenda. Everyone has an agenda. Why do you think he does what he does? He’s not exactly making the world better is he?

[regis80]

Just another perspective over the anti vax, anti restriction view that occurs on the forum so regularly. There’s several different types of posts certain folk take interest in and have a staunch viewpoint on. Is that ok with you?

I don’t buy into these YouTube doctors telling you what to do while some proper doctors are being discredited.

Of course he has an agenda. Everyone has an agenda. Why do you think he does what he does? He’s not exactly making the world better is he?

Yeah but there are a number of credible doctors on infectious diseases who have been either muted/or not been able to put their viewpoint across to MSM since the start of the pandemic. In this particular video by Dr Campbell he’s only going through statistics, which is something anyone can do and you don’t need to be a doctor to make the points he makes. Okay, there might be some context taken out, but stats are stats? Right?

I’ve read he’s in nursing.. but he seriously wouldn’t mislead people adding Dr to his name? I’m guessing he’s a doctors in some other field? Anyway, he seems to be talking sense regarding the number of deaths against attributed to covid and those not. I just don’t get why he’s being attacked. Okay he goes on youtube.. he’s not exactly your average influencer type.

[baggiematt]

Yeah but there are a number of credible doctors on infectious diseases who have been either muted/or not been able to put their viewpoint across to MSM since the start of the pandemic. In this particular video by Dr Campbell he’s only going through statistics, which is something anyone can do and you don’t need to be a doctor to make the points he makes. Okay, there might be some context taken out, but stats are stats? Right?

I’ve read he’s in nursing.. but he seriously wouldn’t mislead people adding Dr to his name? I’m guessing he’s a doctors in some other field? Anyway, he seems to be talking sense regarding the number of deaths against attributed to covid and those not. I just don’t get why he’s being attacked. Okay he goes on youtube.. he’s not exactly your average jinfluencer type.

Have a quick Wikipedia search of the guy and you will see what I mean about his contribution towards Covid misinformation.

He’s smart enough to understand his role in the wider public health by the context of his videos. He has 50 million views.

[regis80]

Have a quick Wikipedia search of the guy and you will see what I mean about his contribution towards Covid misinformation.

He’s smart enough to understand his role in the wider public health by the context of his videos. He has 50 million views.

I did see the wikipedia page but if i’m honest that looks like someone did a botched job of an attempt in trying to describe him, particularly just slamming him about what he said about ivermectin drug.. which I don’t think he was endorsing at that time. He’s not that type.
A few pages in google search you’ll get this article https://www.insider.com/youtube-nurs...eos-2020-3?amp

Then he’s got some amazon links for books he’s written for nursing study. He started his channel way before the pandemic to upload his tutorials and since the pandemic he has covered covid. The thing that has drawn droves of people to him is his calm demeanour, when reporting daily stats. he’s not an anti vaxxer because he’s there helping.. he even made a video of washing hands. He doesn’t exaggerate the numbers like the media have been and his sources are from reliable sources such as ONS and CDC. I don’t think he’s the person you describe him as.

[bordering]

It's called cognitive dissonance.

People have to justify themselves irrelevant of facts.

So if you got jabbed you have to prove it was the right thing to do and you have to reject all counter arguments usually not with facts but with ad hominem criticisms.

So the arguments are futile but eventually the realities will out- & they are all bad

[baggiematt]

It's called cognitive dissonance.

People have to justify themselves irrelevant of facts.

So if you got jabbed you have to prove it was the right thing to do and you have to reject all counter arguments usually not with facts but with ad hominem criticisms.

So the arguments are futile but eventually the realities will out- & they are all bad

No Bordering. It’s called confirmation bias, when you have such a strong view on something you only find facts to support it not the full picture. It’s funny isn’t it, you often find those who don’t believe in the vaccine, also don’t buy into restrictions, masks etc..

Did you know Dr Campbell also supports mask wearing and other measures? But that doesn’t support your narrative. So is this guy credible or not?

My issue with YouTube docs is that it’s one way. No one can challenge, he can’t go into detail and it isn’t peer reviewed. You can basically say what you want and strap the word Doctor to it and make it a ‘fact’. Watch the video; what he says, what he doesn’t say and then read the comments to see how folk have interpreted it. How you present facts is important for how it’s interpreted.