O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[cher1]

Do those posters who oppose the requirement for NHS staff to be vaccinated against covid also oppose the requirement to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B if undertaking exposure-prone procedures?

[upthemaggies]

Do those posters who oppose the requirement for NHS staff to be vaccinated against covid also oppose the requirement to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B if undertaking exposure-prone procedures?

If they were being forced to take an experimental vaccine that was harming and killing more people than all other vaccines put together that didn't protect either them or their patients from Hepatitis B, then yes, obviously.

[Riverleeno]

Do those posters who oppose the requirement for NHS staff to be vaccinated against covid also oppose the requirement to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B if undertaking exposure-prone procedures?

No. A different set of circumstances.

[SaltySeaDog]

Do those posters who oppose the requirement for NHS staff to be vaccinated against covid also oppose the requirement to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B if undertaking exposure-prone procedures?

I think the major differences here Cher are that one is an actual vaccine, i.e if you have the vaccine then you cannot catch or spread this certain disease. Plus regular vaccines have longitudinal studies of 10 years + to evaluate long term side effects and safety.

Obviously we have just been through quite a unique situation, requiring unique responses. But there are very valid reasons for people not wanting to be jabbed

[cher1]

I think the major differences here Cher are that one is an actual vaccine, i.e if you have the vaccine then you cannot catch or spread this certain disease. Plus regular vaccines have longitudinal studies of 10 years + to evaluate long term side effects and safety.

Obviously we have just been through quite a unique situation, requiring unique responses. But there are very valid reasons for people not wanting to be jabbed

Surely they are both vaccines? The covid one is dealing with a rapidly mutating virus, so may need modifying from time to time in the same way the flu vaccine is, and may not offer complete protection. But it does offer significant protection.

The Hep B vaccine doesn't offer complete protection, particularly as people get older.

I take your point about length of studies, although that was mitigated against by the number of concurrent studies that went in across the world, which is unusual in vaccine testing.

Let's hope that the virus continues to weaken and that this all becomes a moot point eh.

[SaltySeaDog]

Surely they are both vaccines? The covid one is dealing with a rapidly mutating virus, so may need modifying from time to time in the same way the flu vaccine is, and may not offer complete protection. But it does offer significant protection.

The Hep B vaccine doesn't offer complete protection, particularly as people get older.

I take your point about length of studies, although that was mitigated against by the number of concurrent studies that went in across the world, which is unusual in vaccine testing.

Let's hope that the virus continues to weaken and that this all becomes a moot point eh.

It could indeed be called a vaccine now, as the definition of what a vaccine is was officially changed last year. And yes the data and number of studies for this particular intervention is unprecedented, but cannot mitigate for a longitudinal study, as only time can give that reassurance.

But drastic measures were needed, so I get why something had to be done quickly.

I totally agree though. I really hope we can all move on from this soon enough.