O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[ramAnag]

WOW that was a body swerve of John Barnes against Brazil proportions. To think you accuse Johnson of diversion tactics,

You really need to separate your own agenda from the title of the thread. It’s ‘The Government’s Handling of Covid’ btw.

[Andy_Faber]

I would add that whilst the statistical facts appear to back up your observation, in reality I very much doubt that 23% as against 13% is significant enough for you to notice in your casual observation of TV and other media would actually lead you to believe there was as you put it "an over representation" of BAME people, more that on this occasion happy coincidence seems to back up your observation.

However, I am on to the "so what?" bit of this, because why you made the comment is of interest, as indeed is why GP seems so interested in why a certain race from his casual observation aren't wearing masks.

That first paragraph just shows you up as an utter squirmer, The Boris Johnson of the forum no less

[ramAnag]

Looks like you're having a tough time here! Regardless of the subject, hope you are "ok", it's just a message board after all

I’m fine thanks Ramshank. When the gang of three get going I’m invariably in the minority. Wouldn’t have it any other way.

[ramAnag]

Sooner that than some of the Swaleisms I've ben subjected to rA and I guess the more I say 'I'm not trying to be patronising' the more patronising I will appear, so I can't win really can I

Nothing at all to do with Swale. You could try really hard to answer the question posed in post #2631 though. I mean there are three of you all jibing away...but, strangely, still no explanation.

[Andy_Faber]

What, imo, we would be better focusing our attention on is what is the motivation behind the Government’s sudden proposed relaxation of the rules. Is it premature and political or thought through and science based? Is it backed by the scientists who guided us through all this for so long? Or is it to deflect attention from the PM’s failings and dishonesty?

OK, I'll try and get us back on track as no-one else seems inclined

1. It will only be proven premature in due course. NB Sorry to go back to the earlier discussion but logically, premature isn't linked to political
2. Is it political? Yes, in the same way all decisions by politicians are political
3. Is it thought through. IMO, yes, with risk attached. I also think its a a reflection of the way the country is moving anyway, and (back to politics) HMG won't want to 'lose the dressing room'. Contrast it with the rage on the ground in Scotland, who may be under restrictions for another six months (with good reason if a killer variant arises, see risk above)
4. Is it backed by the scientists? It would appear so.with qualifications, judging by the press conference. This isn't USSR those very respected and very well paid scientists have their own mind and have free will to go against the pm in public if they want. Or are they being political too, keeping their own counsel to preserve their relative positions of influence?
5. Is it a deflection from the PM's issues? Partly IMO but its a move I support so I'll let him off that. So will many, and the vox pops appear tobear that out

[ramAnag]

However, I am on to the "so what?" bit of this, because why you made the comment is of interest, as indeed is why GP seems so interested in why a certain race from his casual observation aren't wearing masks.

Nutshell! To which one might include Tricky’s ‘middle easterners’ comment and concern over black Vikings etc, etc.
If I didn’t know better I’d say there was a theme developing.
G’night...kept awake by Storm Franklin last night.

[swaledale]

That first paragraph just shows you up as an utter squirmer, The Boris Johnson of the forum no less

There you go again with the personal jibes, and you a mod, hmm!


Its not squirming at all, because in my first post, I asserted that you had done some research to try and back up your perception, which indeed you had.

If you considered your assessment logically, there is no way you could accurately ascertain from simply watching TV or other media that there was a "supposed" over representation of BAME people in the media, not on a 23% proportion.

There are a number of obvious reasons why this is the case, but to take just one instance you, even if you watched a considerable amount of TV, would never be able to watch enough to be able to make an accurate assessment, it can only be your perception that made you think that, based purely on the fact that for some reason you notice when there is a BAME person or persons in whatever your watching.

I think you'd form that opinion if, for arguments sake, you watched channel 4 news and saw two BAME's presenting and then later on saw BBC news and saw 1 BAME presenting. Your point of view would be, I watched two different news channels and the majority of presenters were BAME, thats over representation.

I didn't disagree that the stats appear to back you up, but what they didn't reveal is where that so called "over representation" is - is it in drama, documentaries, news, weather etc? If its in an area which you watch a lot, then it would be noticeable, although again I come back to the question, why is it that you notice this?

There is no squirming here, if only because in the first place it wasn't whether there was an over representation that I was calling you out on, but the fact that you felt it was worth commenting on!

Thats the real question.

[swaledale]

Nutshell! To which one might include Tricky’s ‘middle easterners’ comment and concern over black Vikings etc, etc.
If I didn’t know better I’d say there was a theme developing.
G’night...kept awake by Storm Franklin last night.

The theme is obvious, but why do these posters make so much of the ethnicity of the person and then attempt to link that to behaviour?

Admittedly Thicky extends his prejudice to virtually anyone he doesn't consider to be "British" hence his contemptuous remarks about eastern Europeans! But then Thicky is out and out xenophobic!

[Trickytreesreds]

The theme is obvious, but why do these posters make so much of the ethnicity of the person and then attempt to link that to behaviour?

Admittedly Thicky extends his prejudice to virtually anyone he doesn't consider to be "British" hence his contemptuous remarks about eastern Europeans! But then Thicky is out and out xenophobic!

xenophobic
/ˌzɛnəˈfəʊbɪk/
adjective

1.
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries:
"xenophobic attitudes"

COMEDY GOLD.

Yes I dislike foreigners so much, I spend half my year among them. Hate every minute of it, as you'd think they owned the place

What an absolute twonk you are.

[MadAmster]

Meanwhile, HMG have chosen to end restrictions in England on my birthday. My present to my fellow posters.

The day after we Dutchies return to almost normality. All we'll still have in place is 5 days quarantine if you test positive, masks mandatory on public transport and the need to test negative prior to travelling to NL from countries outside the EU and Schengen areas.