Ukraine & Putin.

[sinkov]

I respectfully suggested you open a separate thread to ridicule Barry Gardiner for getting involved with a Chinese spy. How is that censorship? I asked you to discuss it - not thwart it.

You were talking about the Tory party receiving donations from Russian oligarchs, if you think that has anything to do with Putin invading Ukraine you have a vivid imagination mon ami. Oligarchs bunging Tories has as much relevance to Russian troops in Ukraine as has the Chinese bunging Labour's Gardiner, and if one can be discussed, so can the other. I could respectfully suggest you start a thread on Tory sleaze if you want to discuss that, but I won't, we discuss what we want, when we want, where we want on here usually, or are you changing the rules ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You were talking about the Tory party receiving donations from Russian oligarchs, if you think that has anything to do with Putin invading Ukraine you have a vivid imagination mon ami. Oligarchs bunging Tories has as much relevance to Russian troops in Ukraine as has the Chinese bunging Labour's Gardiner, and if one can be discussed, so can the other. I could respectfully suggest you start a thread on Tory sleaze if you want to discuss that, but I won't, we discuss what we want, when we want, where we want on here usually, or are you changing the rules ?

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Apologies sinkov, I forgot to ask how your brother-in-law is doing?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Starmer talks about "democracy" and then threatens his MPs with political castration if they criticize NATO!

What happened to free speech?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgntp

Starmer really is a Tory and should cross to the other side.

[outwoodclaret]

I cannot but see that, from whatever standpoint you are looking at this, the invasion of Ukraine planned by Putin and his henchmen is a criminal enterprise. Only China, which has military conquests of its own in contemplation, is reluctant to voice any disapproval.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I cannot but see that, from whatever standpoint you are looking at this, the invasion of Ukraine planned by Putin and his henchmen is a criminal enterprise. Only China, which has military conquests of its own in contemplation, is reluctant to voice any disapproval.

Impossible for anyone with a conscience on the right side of normal to argue with you outwood.

This is 2022 for Christ's sake, attacking innocent civilians with hi-tech military hardware is barbaric.

I've been saying the same about how the Israelis deploy the same sort of hi-tech military hardware to bomb Gaza and slaughter innocent civilians for the last decade.

A succession of Israeli Presidents and Prime Ministers and Putin share a common disregard for humanity and are deaf to the pleas of the UN to adhere to the basic Human Rights expected of and provided by decent human beings.

The buzzword here is "Decent human beings". Netanyahu and Putin will hopefully rot in hell, if not a Hague jail for eternity.

The big question outwood is how on earth do the NATO alliance and the UN confront China, Russia and Israel other than stopping them from playing international football matches?

[Norder]

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I cannot but see that, from whatever standpoint you are looking at this, the invasion of Ukraine planned by Putin and his henchmen is a criminal enterprise. Only China, which has military conquests of its own in contemplation, is reluctant to voice any disapproval.

agree Outwood - but dont forget, it takes two (criminals) to tango....they {the Globalists} dont give a damn about innocent civilians, remember ?.... the colour revolution funded by Soros, and later the U.S/Nuland {maiden) destabilization of Ukraine, with the help of the ultranationalist far-right fascists and IMF development loans that ousted their democraticaly elected leader - on Russias (artificial enemy) border....and when for eight years Ukraine have been at War with it's own people, and who gave a phluck about the division then ?, the destruction, the loss of life...now they're all over it - because their phlucking TVs tell them so..... .

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

I opened this thread with the rhetorical question: "Is this dude bonkers?

Is it even possible to imagine the consequences if this lunatic invades the Ukraine?"

We now know the answer.

[Norder]

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here are Ukranians, though they're not the Ukranians your being told to care about....these are the other Ukranians, that live to the east....the Ukranians that aren't supposed to matter.

so if you want to learn something - here's a very interesting and enlightening film

Ukraine: its Donbass conflict



if you don't see subtitles click on box above..................................here.

[ClaretinBudapest]

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here are Ukranians, though they're not the Ukranians your being told to care about....these are the other Ukranians, that live to the east....the Ukranians that aren't supposed to matter.

so if you want to learn something - here's a very interesting and enlightening film

Ukraine: its Donbass conflict



if you don't see subtitles click on box above..................................here.

The double standards is a disgrace.The propaganda machine is in full swing:-

https://youtu.be/HQ2glZtYEwk