Ukraine & Putin.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

This is why BT.This is the pride of the Ukrainian military-the Azov battalian.This is what they do to ethnic Russians.I must warn you it is graphic. :-

https://m.mojevideo.sk/34fa?fbclid=I...zgaZ-wQpompuRI

These sick neo-nazi *******s are using civilians,schools,hospitals etc as shields and propaganda against the Russians.Read this from a Chilean who has lived in Kharkiv since 2016 if you want the truth about Zelensky and his chums.It is a must listen:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZK7o-pyw8

Blood on everyone's hands CiB, where will it stop?

[Norder]

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I'm not quite grasping Putin's point of reducing Ukrainian cities to rubble and slaughtering civilians.

what if we say, there are no nations...BT - that "leaders" have no allegiance to their countries/people, that these so-called leaders are one body who's only agenda is to fulfill their given goals and reset the planet - with persuasion through fear (the enemy) to wipe out resistance, bring all nations in line - one rule for all, one obedient mass living under technology governance and sustainable compliance.
....they've levelled the planet, whats one more country - and all that came with it only aided their cause.


Oct 2021

Russia Joins Centre for the Fourth Industrial Revolution Network

https://www.weforum.org/press/2021/1...ution-network/

[outwoodclaret]

Silence your critics at home, silence your critics abroad.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60878663

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Silence your critics at home, silence your critics abroad.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60878663

It's a proper $hitfest outwood.

The tragedy outwood is the Russians have all the natural assets to live peacefully and prosperously, but they just can't seem able to stop shooting the white dove.

[Norder]

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Silence your critics at home, silence your critics abroad.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60878663

you can't just read crap from the western propaganda press and take it as absolute fact - just as wouldn't (if sensible) read pro-kremlin media and take it as fact...why ?...because they play a nasty game and all we are here for it to be shaped into choosing a side - so carry on, let them do the thinking ....dont ask or question why they would use bullets on a bridge in Moscow, dont ask about his potential involvement in the money laundering scandal at the Neftyanoi Bank, (he was the Director)...dont ask how a guy with a minute following in Russia could be touted to replace Putin - or his Pro Western / anti Russian stance on the Ukraine issue, or how condemnation of this sad event was immedialty tuned into a political event.....and who had most to gain ?...forget it, don't Question the Narrative !




...playing silly Games.


Peter Gabriel - Games Without Frontiers (1980)

[outwoodclaret]

Of course in history it is wise to read from a variety of sources. For example a better understanding of the English Civil War might be gained by reading say the works of Christopher Hill as well as traditional accounts of the underlying conflict between King and Parliament. The actuality of it all is somewhere in there but you will after consideration come to some conclusion as to what the most probable causes were.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Of course in history it is wise to read from a variety of sources. For example a better understanding of the English Civil War might be gained by reading say the works of Christopher Hill as well as traditional accounts of the underlying conflict between King and Parliament. The actuality of it all is somewhere in there but you will after consideration come to some conclusion as to what the most probable causes were.

Bloody hell, it's getting a bit too deep for me now on this thread.

[Norder]

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Of course in history it is wise to read from a variety of sources. For example a better understanding of the English Civil War might be gained by reading say the works of Christopher Hill as well as traditional accounts of the underlying conflict between King and Parliament. The actuality of it all is somewhere in there but you will after consideration come to some conclusion as to what the most probable causes were.

as puppets need strings, so "social and economic transformation" has need for many tentacles - outwood...but as previous, I always tend toward Cui Bono (who benefits) in this case - i'd follow the money, and the 5 ministers who were given refuge in the City of London.

[outwoodclaret]

Bloody hell, it's getting a bit too deep for me now on this thread.

I chose to reference the English Civil War BT because it is a period of history I know well. Out of that conflict Oliver Cromwell and Parliament emerged victorious. There is little doubting Cromwell’s legacy in establishing the supremacy of Parliament and of making England a major European power. I personally however have no great liking for him as an individual and that in no small part arises from his military campaigns in Ireland. That is just my opinion and many eminent historians take a different view. Of course these matters are now a closed book and people can form their own judgements. Putin’s legacy is still very much in the moment and it is of course wise to interrogate the sources but I am tending to think it is very unfortunate or co-incidental that his political enemies end up dead or in prison. Perhaps I should leave the last word to Oliver Cromwell. “Subtlety may deceive you; integrity never will”.

[Norder]

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Perhaps I should leave the last word to Oliver Cromwell. “Subtlety may deceive you; integrity never will”.

those words, obviously weren't a reclection of Cromwells character, are of advice /warning to his friend Robert Barnard (of Huntingdon) after hearing of his concerns, that it seems, were at odds to Cromwells designs - in that, they were what was expected of Barnard....unless he wanted to be sent to a sugar plantation.