O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[BanjoPie]

I agree with all you say, Banjo's account is pretty sick. He doesn't seem to get the difference between a chance meeting on a night out that may lead to consensual s ex, and knowingly taking advantage of an organised p aedophile ring.

My comment is not ‘sick’ as you put it, it is based on fact. He has not been found guilty of being involved with a p aedophile ring nor was he even accused or taken to court for that - there was no evidence to suggest he was involved with the known Epstien p aedophile ring - the only thing that is a fact is that Andrew was a so-called friend of Epstien, that does not make Andrew a p aedophile.

For the record as my work involves writing law, I base my comments on known facts not tickle tackle or the cries of an angry vigilante mob baying for revenge. Lets just deal with facts! You and frenchie remind me of the Welsh mob who beat up a ‘paediatrician’

[Old_pie]

My comment is not ‘sick’ as you put it, it is based on fact. He has not been found guilty of being involved with a p aedophile ring nor was he even accused or taken to court for that - there was no evidence to suggest he was involved with the known Epstien p aedophile ring - the only thing that is a fact is that Andrew was a so-called friend of Epstien, that does not make Andrew a p aedophile.

For the record as my work involves writing law, I base my comments on known facts not tickle tackle or the cries of an angry vigilante mob baying for revenge. Lets just deal with facts! You and frenchie remind me of the Welsh mob who beat up a ‘paediatrician’

Well said Banjo. There are "high and mighty" folk on here who will totally take a sling at any high and mighty. Had any consensual s e x with a 17yr old taken place in the UK it would have been legal, and equally so in many other states in the USA and other parts of the world. Still, probably always best to consult your lawyers before taking such action eh!

As for Virginia Giuffre her story is a sad and probably not untypical of girls who get into the wrong activities at the wrong age and I would hope that those who hope none of us have a daughter who do such things would not have their daughter brought up in an abusive household.

If 16 or 17 depending on where you live is not a good age for consent then it should simply be raised. Personally I think even 18 is on the limit for informed consent but then someone would accuse me of depriving civil liberties.

[Elite_Pie]

My comment is not ‘sick’ as you put it, it is based on fact. He has not been found guilty of being involved with a p aedophile ring nor was he even accused or taken to court for that - there was no evidence to suggest he was involved with the known Epstien p aedophile ring - the only thing that is a fact is that Andrew was a so-called friend of Epstien, that does not make Andrew a p aedophile.

I think it's a bit easier not to be found guilty if you can get mummy to pay several million pounds to silence your victim.

[the_anticlough]

For the record as my work involves writing law, I base my comments on known facts not tickle tackle

Didn't know he had his tackle tickled, that was a detail that escaped me