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[Vintage Claret]

I was hoping to see our team play as they did in the second half against Everton.

It was pointless playing high balls into their 18 yard box with someone likw Handley defending them we know from experience that Handley is commanding in the air but useless when playing on the deck.

Yet we have a striker who scored goals for fun in Germany but under BFC coaching he has not now scored in nine games.

If Alan Pace has the best interest of Burnley FC in mind, then tomorrow morning has should have three P45's prepared in the names of Dyche, Woan and Stone.

I know this is unlikely to happen but personally I have had enough of Dychball.

[army88]

I was hoping to see our team play as they did in the second half against Everton.

It was pointless playing high balls into their 18 yard box with someone likw Handley defending them we know from experience that Handley is commanding in the air but useless when playing on the deck.

Yet we have a striker who scored goals for fun in Germany but under BFC coaching he has not now scored in nine games.

If Alan Pace has the best interest of Burnley FC in mind, then tomorrow morning has should have three P45's prepared in the names of Dyche, Woan and Stone.

I know this is unlikely to happen but personally I have had enough of Dychball.

Welcome to the club Vintage but as you say it won’t happen.

I really believe Dyche doesn’t know what to do and so just keeps doing the same again and again, I’m worried the ALK lot are worse than Dyche and really don’t know what to do for the best.

Even if we survived I’m convinced we’d just start next year with Dyche and the same tactics and playing staff , it can’t happen so like you I believe he has to go and we start again.

[Norder]

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Even if we survived I’m convinced we’d just start next year with Dyche and the same tactics and playing staff.....

the thought of it - Army, but yes, greatly possible.

[Vintage Claret]

Welcome to the club Vintage but as you say it won’t happen.

I really believe Dyche doesn’t know what to do and so just keeps doing the same again and again, I’m worried the ALK lot are worse than Dyche and really don’t know what to do for the best.

Even if we survived I’m convinced we’d just start next year with Dyche and the same tactics and playing staff , it can’t happen so like you I believe he has to go and we start again.

If a miracle happens and we do survive, it would be despite the Dyche tactics rather than because of them.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

If a miracle happens and we do survive, it would be despite the Dyche tactics rather than because of them.

No miracle will happen, because that little square in the midfield where players like Barton and Eriksen pull the strings and run a game is occupied for the Clarets by two journeymen footballers called Brownhill and Westwood.

The heartbeat of the team where guile, aggression and twenty goals a season stems from are missing from our starting line-up, and that is the sole reason we will be relegated from the EPL this season.

[ClaretinBudapest]

No miracle will happen, because that little square in the midfield where players like Barton and Eriksen pull the strings and run a game is occupied for the Clarets by two journeymen footballers called Brownhill and Westwood.

The heartbeat of the team where guile, aggression and twenty goals a season stems from are missing from our starting line-up, and that is the sole reason we will be relegated from the EPL this season.

Exactly BT.Brownhill is a perfect example of our inept recruitment and poor investment.Just look at his stats from 70 PL appearances:-

Attack
Goals 1
Goals per match 0.01
Headed goals 0
Goals with right foot 0
Goals with left foot 1
Penalties scored 0
Freekicks scored 0
Shots64
Shots on target 14
Shooting accuracy 22%
Hit woodwork 1
Big chances missed 1

Team Play
Assists 2
Passes 2,367
Passes per match 33.81
Big Chances Created 1
Crosses 51
Cross accuracy 29%
Through balls 1
Accurate long balls 88

That is the 19th worst stats for a midfielder in PL history!
They are humiliating stats yet he is guaranteed a game because our only alernatives are our PL pensioners Dale Stephens and Jack Cork.
Westwood`s stats are not much better:-

Goals 12
Goals per match 0.04
Headed goals 0
Goals with right foot 11
Goals with left foot 1
Penalties scored 0
Freekicks scored 1
Shots 171
Shots on target 43
Shooting accuracy 25%
Hit woodwork 3
Big chances missed 5

Team Play
Assists 31
Passes 12,958
Passes per match 45.47
Big Chances Created 55
Crosses 956
Cross accuracy 30%
Through balls 29
Accurate long balls 1,023

It is grim reading and just emphasises your point BT.If there were stats for effort-they would be near the top but sadly effort only gets you so far.

[army88]

No miracle will happen, because that little square in the midfield where players like Barton and Eriksen pull the strings and run a game is occupied for the Clarets by two journeymen footballers called Brownhill and Westwood.

The heartbeat of the team where guile, aggression and twenty goals a season stems from are missing from our starting line-up, and that is the sole reason we will be relegated from the EPL this season.

It’s deeper than that BT , the midfield I agree has gone and have posted for many weeks about it tbh we had better balance with Cork in there but his legs don’t allow him to compete so we’re ok with him receiving and passing it but if we lose it he can’t get back and he can’t get far enough up to support the forwards either for fear of not getting back.

Our whole footballing philosophy is dated and the argument will be well we don’t have the players to compete or play differently to how we do now , interesting that weghorst is second top goal score r in bundesligha behind lewandowski and here he can’t get a sniff

He’s not overly quick but has a good brain and feet reads the game well and as above Can/ has scored goals - yet we give him zero service in the areas that he’s meant to be in the 18 yard box , instead he’s defending for the team, how people can slate him is beyond me when he has no service at all.

Lastly I watch us against all teams in the Premiership and I’m convinced we don’t have goal posts on our training facility , other teams come and any opportunity to work the keeper or score and they do it , we with our man in charge would rather have a clean sheet , as I’ve posted elsewhere the whole thing is devoid of FOOTBALL and that’s what we’re supposed to be playing.

[Vintage Claret]

It’s deeper than that BT , the midfield I agree has gone and have posted for many weeks about it tbh we had better balance with Cork in there but his legs don’t allow him to compete so we’re ok with him receiving and passing it but if we lose it he can’t get back and he can’t get far enough up to support the forwards either for fear of not getting back.

Our whole footballing philosophy is dated and the argument will be well we don’t have the players to compete or play differently to how we do now , interesting that weghorst is second top goal score r in bundesligha behind lewandowski and here he can’t get a sniff

He’s not overly quick but has a good brain and feet reads the game well and as above Can/ has scored goals - yet we give him zero service in the areas that he’s meant to be in the 18 yard box , instead he’s defending for the team, how people can slate him is beyond me when he has no service at all.

Lastly I watch us against all teams in the Premiership and I’m convinced we don’t have goal posts on our training facility , other teams come and any opportunity to work the keeper or score and they do it , we with our man in charge would rather have a clean sheet , as I’ve posted elsewhere the whole thing is devoid of FOOTBALL and that’s what we’re supposed to be playing.

I could not agree more with you Army.

We are also constantly remined by some that Dyche has done wonders with the academy but with the exception of McNeil, we have not seen anyone coming through our system and gaining a regular stating place during his tenure. Is it that the quality we recruited for the academy has not been good enough or is it that our manager prefers experienced (older / pass their best ) players.