Do The Owners Ambitions Match The Supporters'?

[Jampie]

Ambitions? Yes.

Patience? No.

As in, everyone wants us to climb the leagues all the way to the top of the Premier league. Of course that's our ambition and that of the owners.

But while many/most fans of the club want us to 100% guarantee getting promoted to League Two in the next season, the owners recognise that:

a) It's actually not possible to do that, and
b) The closer you get to 100% chance of promotion the more expensive it gets, and therefore the less sustainable it is.

I suspect they're aiming for a 20-30% chance of promotion per year, and our performance this season, rating maybe a 10% chance (let's discuss it?) fell slightly short of expectations.

But understand this... even just a 10% chance each year will get you promoted eventually, with you likely to be promoted by the end of your seventh season.

With a 20% chance each season you're over 50% at four years, and a 30% chance is awesome, you should be done by 2-3 seasons.

So depending on what the costs of achieving these chances (or roughly these chances) I would want to settle in the 20-30% range, personally, _unless_ there were seasons with no big spenders in the league, in which case getting a 50% that season might not be too overpriced for us.

So the owners are looking at promotion as a multi-year thing, that could happen next season, or three seasons from now, not something that MUST HAPPEN THIS SEASON. And they'll adopt exactly the same strategy in League Two. If we're regularly making the playoffs, they probably won't be going crazy with expenditure.

Meanwhile to offset the costs, they are looking to get relatively younger players in who are undervalued, train them up and sell them on. And surprisingly, also doing this with Coaches

So while the lack of short term gains might frustrate the hell out of fans (with good reason!) it gives me a LOT of confidence in the club's future. Because it constitutes a long term strategy that:

a) _Will_ succeed, and
b) Carries virtually no risk of the club folding

Whereas previous management have repeatedly brought the club to the brink of bankruptcy by betting on short term gains.

[Elite_Pie]

As in, everyone wants us to climb the leagues all the way to the top of the Premier league.

I must be the odd one out then, because the Premier League isn't on my wishlist. My hopes and expectations aren't that high, I just want us to become a Football League club again. That's all I'm asking.

[uysapie]

I must be the odd one out then, because the Premier League isn't on my wishlist. My hopes and expectations aren't that high, I just want us to become a Football League club again. That's all I'm asking.

Agree and the sooner the better. Depends on who we get as a manager and the tactics.

[Old_pie]

I must be the odd one out then, because the Premier League isn't on my wishlist. My hopes and expectations aren't that high, I just want us to become a Football League club again. That's all I'm asking.

What difference will you see? It looks to me as if the make up of the National League and League Two are not that far apart, certainly not compared to non-league of a few decades ago.

And we're about to be joined by the club you can't mention on this site, sfannythorpe and a former premier league club who used to be the whipping boys when I first went down to the Lane.

[Hoppie]

Ambitions? Yes.

Patience? No.

As in, everyone wants us to climb the leagues all the way to the top of the Premier league. Of course that's our ambition and that of the owners.

But while many/most fans of the club want us to 100% guarantee getting promoted to League Two in the next season, the owners recognise that:

a) It's actually not possible to do that, and
b) The closer you get to 100% chance of promotion the more expensive it gets, and therefore the less sustainable it is.

I suspect they're aiming for a 20-30% chance of promotion per year, and our performance this season, rating maybe a 10% chance (let's discuss it?) fell slightly short of expectations.

But understand this... even just a 10% chance each year will get you promoted eventually, with you likely to be promoted by the end of your seventh season.

With a 20% chance each season you're over 50% at four years, and a 30% chance is awesome, you should be done by 2-3 seasons.

So depending on what the costs of achieving these chances (or roughly these chances) I would want to settle in the 20-30% range, personally, _unless_ there were seasons with no big spenders in the league, in which case getting a 50% that season might not be too overpriced for us.

So the owners are looking at promotion as a multi-year thing, that could happen next season, or three seasons from now, not something that MUST HAPPEN THIS SEASON. And they'll adopt exactly the same strategy in League Two. If we're regularly making the playoffs, they probably won't be going crazy with expenditure.

Meanwhile to offset the costs, they are looking to get relatively younger players in who are undervalued, train them up and sell them on. And surprisingly, also doing this with Coaches

So while the lack of short term gains might frustrate the hell out of fans (with good reason!) it gives me a LOT of confidence in the club's future. Because it constitutes a long term strategy that:

a) _Will_ succeed, and
b) Carries virtually no risk of the club folding

Whereas previous management have repeatedly brought the club to the brink of bankruptcy by betting on short term gains.

Bingo.

However with this in mind I am surprised they didn’t want to retain IB as each change represents a risk (albeit also an opportunity).

I suppose we will be able to analyse this come Xmas!

[Jampie]

Bingo.

However with this in mind I am surprised they didn’t want to retain IB as each change represents a risk (albeit also an opportunity).

I suppose we will be able to analyse this come Xmas!

Yeah losing him is a big hit to the organisation, but they would have had little choice but to let him go. Keeping him here would not be acting in his best interests which is unethical at best.

His (brief) career here, on the other hand, just changed this place from a club where managers' careers take a nosedive (or die), to one where you can jump up two leagues. That should help them recruit the next one.