Do The Owners Ambitions Match The Supporters'?

[legs77]

1: We sign a defensive analyst, most goals conceded of all the play off teams this season.

2: Of the seven permanent signings only 2 play a part in the play off match.

3: Worst finish in the play offs since we dropped out the league.

4: The coach we hired naffs off after a year as he’s obviously not brought in to the ‘big picture’

You cant pin all that on the owners its a collective problem.

You win and lose as a team.

[countygump]

Geraldo Bajrami, one we're supposedly looking at?

[keldsyke]

You cant pin all that on the owners its a collective problem.

If it’s a collective problem then it comes down to the owners, it’s their business / team, if a department (area) is underperforming then it’s the owners problem to try and rectify as necessary.

[jackal2]

Depends what people are saying here.

If the point is that there are still things for the owners to learn, tweak and get right on the playing side, then yes I'd agree. They're relatively new to club ownership and I should imagine you learn and develop as you go along, as with running any other business. Some learning is immediate, other lessons take time. Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough has been at it for donkey's years and he still has ups and downs.

Constructive criticism is one thing, but if anyone is seriously suggesting that they don't want these owners running the club, then I think that's crazy, given the calmness and stability the Reedtz brothers have brought to Notts after years and years of turbulence and decline. Everything I've seen tells me that these guys care about the club and are in the football industry for the right reasons, and these attributes shouldn't be underestimated. The ONLY thing we've got to worry about at present is the club falling just short of promotion. I'd be surprised if there were many/any Notts fans genuinely wanting another change of ownership anytime soon, but if they are, then be careful what you wish for.

[keldsyke]

Depends what people are saying here.

If the point is that there are still things for the owners to learn, tweak and get right on the playing side, then yes I'd agree. They're relatively new to club ownership and I should imagine you learn and develop as you go along, as with running any other business. Some learning is immediate, other lessons take time. Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough has been at it for donkey's years and he still has ups and downs.

Constructive criticism is one thing, but if anyone is seriously suggesting that they don't want these owners running the club, then I think that's crazy, given the calmness and stability the Reedtz brothers have brought to Notts after years and years of turbulence and decline. Everything I've seen tells me that these guys care about the club and are in the football industry for the right reasons, and these attributes shouldn't be underestimated. The ONLY thing we've got to worry about at present is the club falling just short of promotion. I'd be surprised if there were many/any genuinely wanting another change of ownership any time soon, but if they are, then be careful what you wish for.

Agree with that, there seems to be a gaping gap of experience in the set up at Notts in what’s needed to be competitive in this league.

[upthemaggies]

Depends what people are saying here.

If the point is that there are still things for the owners to learn, tweak and get right on the playing side, then yes I'd agree. They're relatively new to club ownership and I should imagine you learn and develop as you go along, as with running any other business. Some learning is immediate, other lessons take time. Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough has been at it for donkey's years and he still has ups and downs.

Constructive criticism is one thing, but if anyone is seriously suggesting that they don't want these owners running the club, then I think that's crazy, given the calmness and stability the Reedtz brothers have brought to Notts after years and years of turbulence and decline. Everything I've seen tells me that these guys care about the club and are in the football industry for the right reasons, and these attributes shouldn't be underestimated. The ONLY thing we've got to worry about at present is the club falling just short of promotion. I'd be surprised if there were many/any genuinely wanting another change of ownership any time soon, but if they are, then be careful what you wish for.

The next owner will most likely be yet another link in the ball and chain that drags us further down the hill. Maybe the best thing that could happen would be for the club to go into admin, clear the debts and hope a fresh start free of that weight we've been carrying around might attract an older, wiser and experienced owner. That would mean an existing owner not getting any of his money back though, they are more likely to grab what they can and sell to somebody who turns out to have less clout than they did.
The fact that the last rival bid left standing was the fraudster and the ex Mansfield Town player (who'd also done time) should tell us something about the quality of the Danes, not that this suggests in any shape or form that they are crooks, but that they don't have a pot to pee in.

If they came under enough pressure, they might have a re-think and employ somebody with a playing style that would have us challenging for auto and give us a better chance in the play offs. No sign of that happening in the foreseeable though and I suspect the moment they feel that they can't do as exactly as they want, we'll start to hear about financial problems behind the scenes and pleas for more fans to turn up before it goes true south.

[BigFatPie]

Depends what people are saying here.

If the point is that there are still things for the owners to learn, tweak and get right on the playing side, then yes I'd agree. They're relatively new to club ownership and I should imagine you learn and develop as you go along, as with running any other business. Some learning is immediate, other lessons take time. Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough has been at it for donkey's years and he still has ups and downs.

Constructive criticism is one thing, but if anyone is seriously suggesting that they don't want these owners running the club, then I think that's crazy, given the calmness and stability the Reedtz brothers have brought to Notts after years and years of turbulence and decline. Everything I've seen tells me that these guys care about the club and are in the football industry for the right reasons, and these attributes shouldn't be underestimated. The ONLY thing we've got to worry about at present is the club falling just short of promotion. I'd be surprised if there were many/any Notts fans genuinely wanting another change of ownership anytime soon, but if they are, then be careful what you wish for.

I would say that they’re the right owners at the wrong time. Getting out of a league with just two promotion places is a big ask with our playing style, and there’s more margin for error in League 2. I hope they’ve learnt enough to know by now the qualities we’ve been lacking in the three seasons down here. And of course the recruitment this summer has to be better.( though I think out recruitment was pretty good last summer but Burchnall obviously didn’t agree).

[crazyfists]

I don't think we would, before relegation our lowest position was 21st, still leaving us safe.

This and no one is saying we weren't crap in the season we got relegated and got what we deserved. Doesn't change the fact we wouldn't have gone down earlier or there shouldn't be an extra place for promotion from our league. Also no one is claiming we should spend crazily and risk going bust to maybe not make it anyway as per Wrexham and Chessie (as Laddo likes to pretend there is) People just want the players in the right positions to give us a better chance to go up from this league. Sutton and Barrow in the last 3 years show it's not all about the money but it's about using it wisely. I also don't see any fans saying they want the Reedtz out, that's another myth but only on NCM I suppose.............

[jackal2]

I also don't see any fans saying they want the Reedtz out, that's another myth but only on NCM I suppose.............

There's a lot of mythology on Notts County MAD, but I suppose the name of the message board does give you a clue!

[laddo]

There's a lot of mythology on Notts County MAD, but I suppose the name of the message board does give you a clue!

It's certainly better to be called Mad then a Morons.

CF is right nobody has said we should be spending crazily but they have said that we need to go out spend more, we need to sign players like those aforementioned clubs have signed.

It's never been all about the money and highlighting the two precious title winners is a great example. They got the right players in, the right manager, played the players in the correct position, didn't change manager every season, the right approach and effective Plan A and B. Probably got some luck along the way to boot. Easy when you have one automatic promotion spot

Do we know how much the owners are covering financially each season? And how much more these fans who claim they aren't ambitious or playing a real life computer game want them to spend each season?