📝 Tobi Adebayo-Rowling Signs

[Killerkline]

They can be. I never said they couldn't.

My point was that a manager HAS to be a good leader. It's part of the job description. Managing and leading are very much the same thing. A head coach should be, but those qualities are secondary to their ability in coaching and tactics.

I know I should stay off here, but against my better judgement…

Managing and leading aren’t very much the same thing.

[upthemaggies]

As Laddo has summed up we can’t expect 20 years of decline to be reversed over night. It takes time to rebuild.

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You can't re-build continually employing bang average managers who leave you where they found you or worse.

As discussed on MC, it's all about finding the right manager, we see it time and time again, managers come in and transform clubs - literally overnight in some cases with no pre-season, no 4 year plan, no clear out, they come in and take the club by the scruff of the neck. That's what we need at Notts but we almost certainly are not going to see it under these owners any time soon.

[Jampie]

You can't re-build continually employing bang average managers who leave you where they found you or worse.

As discussed on MC, it's all about finding the right manager, we see it time and time again, managers come in and transform clubs - literally overnight in some cases with no pre-season, no 4 year plan, no clear out, they come in and take the club by the scruff of the neck. That's what we need at Notts but we almost certainly are not going to see it under these owners any time soon.

Sounds like you should buy the club off them and do it better!

[laddo]

You can't re-build continually employing bang average managers who leave you where they found you or worse.

As discussed on MC, it's all about finding the right manager, we see it time and time again, managers come in and transform clubs - literally overnight in some cases with no pre-season, no 4 year plan, no clear out, they come in and take the club by the scruff of the neck. That's what we need at Notts but we almost certainly are not going to see it under these owners any time soon.

Not leave, sack managers that's what our managerial history shows. Huge difference.

As my mate Stall said on CM for every manager that comes in and transforms a club overnight there are 5 who don't/can't. Martin Allen is the type who could transform the club/team in the very short term, and did at Notts. The longer that term goes on the less effective he is based on his managerial career.

[upthemaggies]

Sounds like you should buy the club off them and do it better!

I'd be rejected on the basis that I'd relocate the club, which you can't do if the support base is against it.

[jacobncfc]

You can't re-build continually employing bang average managers who leave you where they found you or worse.

As discussed on MC, it's all about finding the right manager, we see it time and time again, managers come in and transform clubs - literally overnight in some cases with no pre-season, no 4 year plan, no clear out, they come in and take the club by the scruff of the neck. That's what we need at Notts but we almost certainly are not going to see it under these owners any time soon.

But then they leave and you’re back at square one.

[Elite_Pie]

But then they leave and you’re back at square one.

Not really, because they should have moved us to square two.

[upthemaggies]

Not really, because they should have moved us to square two.

Yes, what's the alternative, bring in managers nobody else is going to want for the sake of stability?

[SwalePie]

Yes, what's the alternative, bring in managers nobody else is going to want for the sake of stability?

That, or we could bring in head coaches other teams would be prepared to pay us compensation for? Just a thought.

[countygump]

Not really, because they should have moved us to square two.

Orrr, you employ a decent manager/coach and he's poached by a bigger boy after a season or so and you're back to square 1, or 2. But at least you get some money in the tin.